Read: Whether These Lawsuits Mean The End Of A Season

At TSN, Eric Macramalla writes about the lawsuits that the NHL filed and that the NHLPA could likely file this week and what it really means.

A players lawsuit could put more pressure on the two sides to strike a deal as the NBA and NBAPA reached a new CBA 12 days after the players filed an anti-trust lawsuit against the league.

He writes “As the NHL is not looking to fundamentally change its business model as it did in 2005, conventional wisdom suggests that this should get settled and the NHL should return this season. This lockout, however, has been filled with surprises, and as a result, it’s tough to know when the sides will strike a deal.”

Nick Cotsonika writes “What has NHL’s biggest fear been? That Fehr wants to take down cap. So if PA disclaims and begins process, that’s a sham? So either this whole negotiation is a sham to take down cap, or disclaiming would be a sham to reach CBA. Hmm.”


Cotsonika adds a few tweets and says, “Sounds like NHL is daring PA to disclaim for real, declaring it has made best offer, going to court preemptively to prevent sham disclaimer. NHL to players essentially: “OK, boys. Take our deal, or take the risk if you disclaim. What’s it gonna be?” If I’m the NHLPA, I file my own unfair labor charge today, offer to keep negotiating, use disclaimer as last resort.”


Craig Custance, at ESPN Insider, writes “Ultimately, that’s all this move is — another play for leverage. But it remains to be seen whether that leverage will expedite an agreement or make one altogether impossible.”

Custance also spoke with Dan Cleary of the Red Wings and Shawn Horcoff of the Canucks who said that they expect the vote to allow a disclaimer of interest to pass.




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WendyGBuckley


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Pete 57
Pete 57

Just read this little tidbit on Rex's new o line coach:

Clayton also reported Saturday that the Bills reached a two-year deal with Aaron Kromer as their offensive line coach. Kromer had spent the past two seasons as the Bears' offensive coordinator, but he's best known for having been outed as Rapoport's anonymous source in a report that detailed the Bears' unhappiness with quarterback Jay Cutler. According to the Chicago Tribune, Kromer later apologized for his actions in front of the entire team.

Seems Rex likes Coaches that leak inside info to the media.

I predict Kromer will be named HC of the Browns, mid season this coming year.

kniff
kniff

Let's keep Harvin because Decker and Amaro haven't proven reliable hands. Let's draft another stud TE or tall WR with proven catch ability, and save money there.

carlhungus
carlhungus

Rex takes Lal to buffalo..it does sort of prove doubters he doesn't have a clue about offense....

marcus81
marcus81

ok if Jets get Cooper trade Harvin and sign a top O lineman, if Jets don't get Cooper renegotiate with Harvin and draft Scherif, sign a good starting CB not like last time when Idzik was here, and sign a vet QB that can start or push Geno, do that starters

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

It's early and we already got Cro and Spiller  lobbying to come to NY.

I like this Bowles effect already.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Round 1 Ereck Flowers OT Miami

Round 2 Dorial Green Beckham WR Oklahoma

Round 3 Jalen Collins CB LSU

Round 4 Nate Orchard DE/OLB Utah

Round 5 Sean Mannion QB Oregon State

Round 6 Michael Dyer RB Louisville

jdb4
jdb4

@Pete 57


Funny that Rex would hire a guy who would openly throw a player under the bus, when Rex goes to such lengths to protect his players.

Steven Windeler
Steven Windeler

@kniff  Decker has certainly proven to have reliable hands.

You keep Percy because we're running the spread, and he can play 3 positions.

Just think what we could do without substituting with Amaro, and Harvin.

We could go 5 wide, 4 wide with a RB, or TE, or 3 wide with a back, and TE all without subbing.

Someone needs to convince Percy that he could lead the league in all purpose yards in this offense.

Decker, Kerley, Harvin, Amaro, and Green-Beckham would be tailor made for Gailey's spread.  

namvetjet
namvetjet

@kniff Don't know if Decker has to prove that he has reliable hands.

Pete 57
Pete 57

You would think he would just let roman assemble his own staff.

jdb4
jdb4

@marcus81


Would you be opposed to signing DeMaryius Thomas and drafting the best offensive lineman?

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@marcus81 They have to commit to Harvins 10m. contract in March before the draft.

marcus81
marcus81

@johnnyl65 Spiller doesn't play a full season, tired of Cumberland and Salas not being around to play a season to take on another guy like him

jetsjerk
jetsjerk

@johnnyl65 yes, yes,  I would like to see more action in free agency this season.

a57se
a57se

@bradysucks 

You can't have a 4th round pick and a 6th round pick. One of them has to go to Seattle for Harvin...

Pablo Bruno
Pablo Bruno

@bradysucks  If were going WR in the second round, I would prefer Sammy Coates out of Auburn, he will cause problems for opposing corners and safeties, impossible to press him he is too strong and you can't play him one on one he is too fast, he would need to work on his route running but that is coachable.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@bradysucks Are you saying bye to Brick that's the only way you draft a T at 6? Which you can't being his dead money would be 9 m.

jetsjerk
jetsjerk

@bradysucks Like your picks, especially an OT 1st pick, but what about Matt Moore instead of #5?

dabronx
dabronx

@Steven Windeler @kniff


No way we should keep Harvin. He would cost 10.5M and a 4th rounder for a locker room cancer who can't run routes. I'm tired of taking in players most teams are smart enough not to take. 

hazard2012
hazard2012

@namvetjet @kniff


Exactly, and while Amaro needs to tighten-up that aspect of his game he's been the best rookie TE in the league this year, and will only get better; especially since Marty really didn't use him properly at all.   Have no interest in Harvin unless he redoes his contract, and maybe not even then.

Bent
Bent moderator

@Pete 57 If Rex stayed here and then announced all these guys were returning next year, I think most of us wouldn't have been too happy.

marcus81
marcus81

@jdb4 @marcus81 Thomas will be the best receiver available whithin the last few years but will cost a lot, release Harvin to get him if Harvin is gonna get paid all that money, Harvin doesn't play a full season

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65 @marcus81 Well, they could make that commitment and then still trade him (perhaps eating part of his salary in any deal with a pre-trade bonus).  The obligation to pay his guaranteed salary for the year would pass on to the acquiring team.

marcus81
marcus81

@johnnyl65 @marcus81 then renegotiate, no way Harvin is worth 10mil, Miami might release Wallace but the guy is a headache 

bradysucks
bradysucks

I'm drafting Brick's replacement and starting him initially at right tackle. He'll replace Brick when Brick retires. In the meantime I have 2 excellent tackles who were top 10 picks in their draft class protecting the QB on each side

There is no "only way".....There are many ways to build a roster

bradysucks
bradysucks

@jetsjerk @bradysucks 


I like Matt Moore. I'd take him on the roster.


I still like the idea of drafting a 6 foot 5 inch QB (Mannion) with a big arm who has some potential if you put a good o-line in front of him.

Pete 57
Pete 57

I understand, but we are talking about Rex here. His offenses have been putrid so one would hope he would learn from his mistakes and let his head offensive guy put the staff together.

carlhungus
carlhungus

Thomas won't see fa, but they could let their te test the waters....

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@marcus81 @johnnyl65 Unless were willing to give Harvin a long term deal I don't see him considering it he might rather the Jet release him so he can test FA.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@bradysucks Then you're paying Breno 4.75 M. to sit on the bench. Why is it you never look at the cap?

jetsjerk
jetsjerk

@bradysucks @jetsjerk I still think the round 5 pick should be a DB... after last year I dont trust the seconday and the QB situation has to be free agency for a seasoned gun.  We already have 2 backups.

Pete 57
Pete 57

Why not trade for Glennon?

marcus81
marcus81

@Pete 57 if Buffalo is gonna stink I won't object, Miami too, it's all about challenging the Pats till Brady retires

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65 @Bent @marcus81


No, but that's why I suggested the possibility of a pre trade bonus.  Also, the acquiring team could decide to renegotiate too.  They'd only be on the hook for that year's salary (less any the Jets ate) and then could spread out his deal with a lower annual value and initial cap hit.

bradysucks
bradysucks

Also if you took the time to actually research Flowers instead of just whining about Breno you'd realize that he is an exceptional run blocker who can also play guard if you need him to.

Personally I'd prefer to use him immediately at tackle but for those people who are in love with the idea of sticking with Breno and Brick you can still do this for another year. Flowers can replace either Colon or Aboushi next year if necessary. Flowers would be an upgrade over both guys at guard and he still projects as a potentially elite left tackle in the NFL

bradysucks
bradysucks

I can move Breno to guard or trade Breno or use him as a backup or start him for a year in front of Flowers. There are many options....

I'm not gonna pass up the opportunity to add a potentially elite left tackle who can also play right tackle to my roster because of Breno....BIG PICTURE is what counts

bradysucks
bradysucks

@jetsjerk @johnnyl65 @bradysucks 


I'd be happy with either guy.....Scherff will probably be a guard in the NFL early in his career and I would add Mike Iupati from the 49ers in free agency to play guard....


I do like Scherff though and have done other mocks where the Jets took him.....It really depends on what the Jets do in free agency....

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@Pete 57 If your as immobile as he is you have to be able to read a defense like Brady or Peyton and he can't.

Bent
Bent moderator

@bradysucks


Why didn't you suggest he could play guard and then move to left tackle later then?


Something which most experts believe Scherff or Cooper could also do anyway, (if you took the time to actually research them).  I don't really see Breno as a guard.


As for adding Iupati, well, he's an exceptional run blocker but he's also a below average pass blocker (while Colon is above average) so you're likely worsening the pass protection, which is most often cited as what needs fixing about the Jets line, with that move.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@johnnyl65 @Pete 57 


Glennon is still early in his career....He still has time to improve how he reads the defense...


Brady sat for a year or two behind Bledsoe before he started for the Pats....


I think Glennon is only in his 3rd year

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnnyl65 @Bent @marcus81 I think the decision will ultimately boil down to (a) keep Harvin or (b) don't keep Harvin.  They won't initially keep him and then trade him, I just wanted to outline that it wasn't totally implausible.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent @bradysucks 


Colon maybe has another year left...2 at most....do you disagree?


I am still drafting an o-lineman in round 1 if I get the chance if there is not a QB available...


Flowers I believe can start as a rookie at either tackle spot and also start at guard if necessary.....He opened up a lot of wholes in the run game for Duke Johnson at Miami and he was dominant against Floida State. The guy is an elite prospect who can be used anywhere on the o-line other than center.


I like Scherff as well but some scouts feel he won't be able to start immediately at tackle in the NFL which is NOT the case with Flowers....


I'm sorry but I am not letting aging o-lineman at the end of their careers prevent me from adding elite young talent

Pete 57
Pete 57

He's thrown 29 TDs and 15 picks and has an 83.7 rating since he's been in the league. Pretty good.

carlhungus
carlhungus

Seems like harvin might want some guaranteed money and some stability instead of playing on one year deals...I think they get something done, he will be a focal point of the offense with Gailey

Bent
Bent moderator

@bradysucks @Bent


I don't think Colon will be a Jet next year.


Just pointing out that because Iupati is a shiny object and the best guard on the market, there are some things Colon does better than him, so he's not single-handedly going to revitalize the line (and might cost close to $10m a year for him to not do that).


Still, it might be a better option than Orlando Franklin, who probably isn't going to look anywhere near as good when he doesn't have a Peyton Manning to analyze every blitz before it happens and get rid of the ball before he gets pressured.


I quite like some non-first round guards, so that might be the route I'd take, if they don't take Collins in round one.

bradysucks
bradysucks

@Bent @bradysucks 


Personally I'd be happy with using the 6th pick on a WR, OT, or QB. I think all three areas are worth using a top 10 pick on.....Flowers appears to be a guy who can start as a rookie on the o-line at 4 positions which makes him intriguing to me. Many tackles in the NFL are good pass protectors but not great run blockers. This guy Flowers reminds me of  Damien Woody because he can do both