Read: The NHL Really Hates Donald Fehr

In the NY Post, Larry Brooks writes that the main focus of the NHL isn’t to make a deal but to try and wrangle up enough support from the players to remove Donald Fehr from his position.

“This is a stretch in which ownership and management mean to scare the players into a stampede to either overthrow or sidestep their elected leader. The league is attempting to run out the clock on Fehr. It is doing everything possible within the confines of U.S. labor law to encourage an uprising within the union.”

According to Brooks, the owners have been led to believe that Fehr never negotiated a CBA in Major League Baseball and that the players pushed him aside in 2002 and 2006. On this report, Brooks says “This is utter nonsense. But a slur such as this fuels belief around the league that Fehr, like Goodenow before him, simply cannot be dealt with. It deflects criticism from Bettman and ownership to deliver a product to its customers.”




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roadyhorns
roadyhorns

I bet Woody is starting to realize that he threw away a great coach with nothing out there to replace him with.  Cable?  Quinn?  Bowles?  That's just hilarious.  Good luck with that, Woody.

andrgreen
andrgreen

Who ever is running the draft (scouting talent) for the Ravens is good. Did anyone notice the size of their players? Or their dominating style of play?

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

Get a new guy for HC.

Tired of these retreads with bad tire prints.

Give Mangini control of the draft and scouting Department.  Rex control of the D.  good young oc and that old guy from sny to run special teams. ManginRex will  run this division for over a decade like Shula, Levy and BB before them. GO JETS!

Slim pickings to the extreme.  Maybe the DeCosta will jump ship[ if we promise to hire back Rex. Rex would coach circles around any of these fools.  Ask cromartie.  Hire Rex back before we lose him Oneofwood!!

jdb4
jdb4

At this point what does everyone give the odds on each candidate - for each position.


Who do you think will be next GM and HC?

D
D

Bowles is interesting.  Kubiak is too. At the very minimum has experience most of us have seen.



jetfan100
jetfan100

If we are not looking for college coaches, I think Kubiak is the best option from the offensive side.  Ravens offense went from 25th to 8th in scoring...

joe8881
joe8881

New GM... REHIRE Rex Ryan as HC of the NY Jets

hoss
hoss

Woody is a stooge playing us for fools, ,, sell Woody sell. The only good thing about Marrone is he will cut Smith,  he knows he is horrible,  although he helped Doug with a few SU and Bills wins.   Lets see Rex gets fired because Woody and Idzik tells Rex to play Smith who they think is the second coming of Russell Wilson.   Only Woody is left standing, after all it is his toy.  Oh I forgot, Woody brings in Tebow to sell PSL's .   stays under the cap to make up for the lost PSL money.  .Would any decent coach want to work here.  forget it,  just bring on Marrone and forget about the future.

McGeorge
McGeorge

Is Kubiak really that special as a head coach?


Getting a good talent evaluator/GM is more important.

No coach will do anything with this team for at least 2 years, and more likely 4 years, unless they get lucky with a QB.

lagoo
lagoo

To bad we're the least desirable place to coach. Maybe the raiders are worse but it's very close.

Brendan
Brendan

@roadyhorns Or they like someone (like Quinn) and are just pissing into the wind until they're allowed to sign him. 


I think there are clear tiers to this coaching search. I think Quinn is clearly in the top tier, I'd assume Bowles is close to that level, too. I hope Marrone isn't and it's just the media pushing an agenda, but he might be, and that's the truly scary thing in all of this. I'll take almost any of the other names being thrown out there over him. At least Cable would know someone out here and there to keep people on their toes. 

jets3980
jets3980

@roadyhorns    really ? lmao! please tell me your not talking about Rex! great coach??? really? what football team have you been watching? 

Brendan
Brendan

@Lloyd Jay Reife Let's look at the last 10 SB's fora  "new guy" vs. "retread" comparison. I honestly have no preference. Winners listed first. 


XLVIII:

Seattle (retread) vs. Broncos (retread)

XLVII:

Baltimore (new guy) vs. San Fran (new guy)

XLVI:

NYG (retread) vs. New England (retread)

XLV:

Green Bay (new guy) vs. Pittsburgh (new guy)

XLIV:

New Orleans (new guy) vs. Indianapolis (new guy)

XLIII:

Pittsburgh (new guy) vs. Arizona (new guy)

XLII:

NYG (retread) vs. New England (retread)

XLI:

Indianapolis (retread) vs. Chicago (new guy) 

XL:

Pittsburgh (new guy) vs. Seattle (retread)

XXXIX:

New England (retread) vs. Philly (new guy)


Winners: 5 retreads, 5 new guys. 

Losers: 4 retreads, 6 new guys. 


Total SB appearances: 9 retreads vs. 11 new guys. 

Lloyd Jay Reife
Lloyd Jay Reife

And what is Rex to be called?

Oh, they have a title for that, it's called DC.

Yep that'll be acceptable to Rex.

Brendan
Brendan

DeCosta already has declined every offer extended his way. It's pretty clear he's intent on staying in B-more until Ozzie leaves. 

@jdb4 I'd say right now, with these candidates, the odds of us fulfilling Idziks 5 year plan are 100%.  Not too mention boring as heck.  I can take boring if your BB but still prefer the SEXY REXY because sports is about entertainment.  Not to mention none of these D guys could sniff Rex's shorts and the O guys are pretty bad.  Bring in Mangini to GM and Rex as coach and we own this division within 2 years.  Don't listen to Casserly Woody, his eyes look in different directions!!

jdb4
jdb4

@jetfan100 

Well the offensive line needs overhauling, so a conversion to a zone blocking scheme could be started from scratch. IMO, Winters and Aboushi are out, they don't have the lateral agility to fit. 

r4to
r4to

AGREE! He's definitely a better option than Marrone in my opinion. At least we know he has play calling experience!

lagoo
lagoo

I think woody is a fool as well but it's not his fault we lost both games afc championship games.

lagoo
lagoo

I don't agree with that time frame. Both rex and mangini righted the ship quickly. We have the potential for a great 4-3 dline and we can run the ball. We need to spend some serious cash on fixing the secondary and o line and get a couple impact starters in the draft and we could be a wild card team.

lamjones
lamjones

I am with you on that one, the most important thing is that the new HC can develop young players, specifically offense.  Kubiak has managed to win games without an elite QB and is probably going to be dependably competent.  I would think the next coach we hire to be the more important one.

Pete 57
Pete 57

We are a much better destination than Buffalo and light years better than Oakland. Chicago has a huge mess on their hands with Cutler. San Fran is probably better.

We have tons of cap space, and pick number 6 in the draft. A decent coach and draft and the Jets could easily make the playoffs with an Orton level QB.

The Jets will get a decent GM and HC. It's an attractive destination and Woody will pay handsomely.

roadyhorns
roadyhorns

@jets3980 @roadyhorns 

You can have whatever opinion you'd like of Rex.  I'm talking about the fact that there isn't anyone out there whose better.  And if your opinion of Rex is so low, then that should really disturb you.

roadyhorns
roadyhorns

@levi @roadyhorns 

I bet he's the first hired - if he finds the situation he wants.  I don't see him taking anything just to get back into coaching.  I'm sure 6 years of this downward spiral nightmare has worn him down.  Can't blame him for wanting out.

tango01
tango01

@Brendan What I don"t get is what guy wouldn't want to take on the challenge and build HIS own team? To be the boss, call the shots, to a  point but what i'm getting at is don't you want to gm your own team? To be known as the guy who turn around a franchise instead of waiting for Ozzie to step down and take over a team that might already be in good shape. 

lamjones
lamjones

@lagoo  I would like to see that too, but I am tired of wild card every few years being the ceiling.  Rex gave us two awesome postseason runs out of our last upswing but he was not the kind of guy who could retool and coach up an entire roster effectively.  I am not really sure that a guy who can win big games and build is available currently, if they think they can find one great.  But to put the horse before the cart, we need to make sure that we get a guy who can create an environment where young players can learn.  The entire league after the last CBA is skewing younger and younger, fixing the talent recognition and implementation parts of this team is the first order of business.

McGeorge
McGeorge

@Pete 57 No way the Jets make the playoffs with an Orton level QB.    They need two corner backs and an offensive lineman, as well as better line backer and safety play.  A #1 WR would help.


To make the playoffs (with a Kyle Orton QB) what would it take to do better than teh Bengals and Ravens?  Are the Jets there (with a Kyle Orton QB)?  Not a chance.

jetlife
jetlife

@Pete 57 Sadly, I don't think anyone actually believes anything you just wrote, even if it is true.

Brendan
Brendan

@roadyhorns Yes, that's what I was alluding to by "knocking someone out." I was also not being serious, I think he's a bottom-rung candidate. Hopefully he was just interviewed so they could cover all their bases and have a decision ready when their guy shakes loose (Quinn) or so they can make an informed decision on someone already available (like....fck me....Marrone). 

jets3980
jets3980

@roadyhorns @jets3980 how can you say that Rex is the best candidate out there? he had 2 good years with someone else's talent and then reality set in! Rex is a good def coordinator not a good head coach. fact not opinion. he has no clue how to run an entire football team. ill take my chance with any of the other candidates. 

Brendan
Brendan

@roadyhorns He has an interview tomorrow in Atlanta. Honestly, they were impressed with him the first time around, how much of an interview do they need? 

Brendan
Brendan

@tango01 Probably someone who has already basically built his own team in Baltimore and is just waiting his turn. He's already compensated like a top GM, anyway. 

Pete 57
Pete 57

I give you credit, you are definitely committed to your cause. I don't know why, but you get points for staying the course.

D
D

@lamjones @lagoo This team can be very competitive if they hit it out of the park this offseason.  They have a lot at their disposal and good tools to work with already (rushing, dline, oline), cap space, and a top pick.


The draft needs to yield at least 2-3 starters out of it.....and its possible.


If they can get a good prospect for QB in the draft no matter what round I think they can compete.


Pete 57
Pete 57

It's all about the QB. If you don't have a good one it doesn't matter who is coaching, or the GM.

Hope we pick good guys, but no matter who Woody hires, it's all going to come down to if they can find a QB within the next few years.

Pete 57
Pete 57

Nah, many people on here and that I know believe this, mostly because it's true.

Pete 57
Pete 57

@lagoo. L. Your turn.

ganggrncap
ganggrncap

You're a softie Pete. Joe is cuckoo for Coco puffs.

I never see any remorse shown for Joeyboy or BS.

lamjones
lamjones

@Pete 57  Amen, although there are plenty of empty suit type coaches who could manage to not win enough even with a good QB.

jetlife
jetlife

@Pete 57 Yes, ON HERE. The media, the fans, and the general attitude towards this franchise nationally does not consider this a favorable job...

bharper42
bharper42

@roadyhorns @jets3980 marrone is better than ryan. pundit fans like yourself with man crushes don't understand that.


also, kubiak, quinn, bowles all > than rex. 


what team were you watching the past 6 years?

Pete 57
Pete 57

True, but the candidates we are looking at all seem like they could win given a QB. I'm not in love with any of them yet, but I bet Marrone and Kubiak would win if they had a top 10 QB.

Pete 57
Pete 57

Sure, that's the national story. But look at how they are talking about Rex! He was killed for being a clown, etc. now that he's fired the entire media is talking about him like he is the next Lombardi. Anyway, all that matters is what these candidates think. I'm sure from their own experiences they don't believe the media, and they definitely don't listen to fans.

lamjones
lamjones

Yes, but by win I mean the whole damn thing... they all might be able to make the playoffs with a QB, but they all might not be able to win in the playoffs (Marvin Lewis e.g.)