Photo: Derek Stepan Smiling In Finland November 12th, 2012 3:42 pm via Like this:Like Loading... 409 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest J. Smooth 5pts Well, GGN sucks, so I'm back.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVK6yLqY54w williamg1 5pts New York Jets ✔ @nyjetsMarty on QB switch: “Geno gets big-picture look from a different point of view”Would have been great is we did this weeks (months) ago. privatejet 5pts Put a fork in Geno; he's done! tsjc68 5pts Bytor, below: "Blech, what I would give for Alex Smith-type competence."So I looked it up:Alex Smith, 2012-2013: 24 starts, 461 for 726 (63.5%), 36/12 td/int, 5050 yards (202.0 ypg), 7.2 ay/a, 63 sacks, 107 rush attempts, 564 rushing yards, 1 td, 11 fumbles, 93.6 ratingSam Bradford, 2012-2013: 23 starts, 487 for 813 (59.9%), 35/17 td/int, 5389 yards (234.3 ypg), 6.5 ay/a, 50 sacks, 52 rush attempts, 158 rushing yards, 1 td, 10 fumbles, 85.3 ratingNot identical, but not too far apart. And we wouldn't have to surrender two Day 2 picks to sign him. williamg1 5pts @J. Smooth Haha. Welcome back. Idzik still sucks, though. a57se 5pts @J. Smooth That didn't take long!Welcome back! Paul Samuels 5pts @williamg1 Might not have changed anything record wise. And who knows, Vick may have just gotten hurt. roadyhorns 5pts @privatejet Makes you wonder what role the broken helmet speaker had in the 3 interceptions. To me, it revealed that Geno doesn't see the field whatsoever. He's just locking onto the first receiver and throwing it where the playbook says to throw it. When he was just slightly rattled by the lack of instructions, he couldn't see anything down field. williamg1 5pts @privatejet "Eff You" -Geno BDarc23 5pts @tsjc68 but that is totally discounting the injury thing J. Smooth 5pts @williamg1 @J. Smooth Well he hasn't had any press conferences in a few days, so that's a start. williamg1 5pts @Paul Samuels @williamg1 But it may have changed something. No reason sticking for Geno for 8 games, when he's been the worst QB in football. jeezy29 5pts @Paul Samuels @williamg1 Nope, but williamg1 can't have any fun unless he's bashing someone. Maybe he's compensating for something (wink, wink) Bklyn Dude 5pts @roadyhorns @privatejet Geno is also throwing off his back foot and the ball is sailing way over the WR's head. I haven't seen much improvement with this aspect of him when he's under pressure. privatejet 5pts @roadyhorns I thought they replaced the helmet. I'm sure Geno would have loved to use that as an excuse if that had any impact on the game. Vick wasn't any better either - he was missing wide open receivers all day; and he's supposed to be the veteran smh DarrolRayFanClub 5pts @roadyhorns @privatejet I believe it was fixed for the third INT, and that one to me was the worst throw. At least the first two were on target if the defender wasn't there. That third one went sailing to no one. jeezy29 5pts @williamg1 @privatejet It must get tiring being the crusader of justice around here. tsjc68 5pts @BDarc23 @tsjc68 Number of times I said "Sam Bradford is risk-free and has no downside": zero Bent moderator 5pts @BDarc23 @tsjc68 It also discounts the fact that when Smith was Bradford's age he wasn't the player he is now. tsjc68 5pts @J. Smooth @williamg1 This press conference Idzik did must have been epically awful. Glad I missed it (and no, I don't care to go back and watch it. Whatevs.) Paul Samuels 5pts @williamg1 @Paul Samuels I suppose, but early on he did look like he was on the uptick. hitchhiker 5pts @jeezy29 if you can't dispute williamg1's assertion, an ad hominem attack will surely prove your point!/sarcasm privatejet 5pts @jeezy29 wow what are you 12? Stay classy jeezy! williamg1 5pts @jeezy29 @williamg1 @privatejet You left out American way. Bytor 5pts @tsjc68 @BDarc23 And yet it's hugely relevant here. If...no when he gets injured we're back to Geno/Simms/rookie. I'm not giving up picks for that. BDarc23 5pts @tsjc68 @BDarc23 Hahaha. That is true but I think you purposely left out the fact he's had major injury problems so that the compare would look better. jeezy29 5pts @tsjc68 @BDarc23 But Bradford's injury history will undoubtedly cause his price tag to plummet. Which is good for us. BDarc23 5pts @Bent @BDarc23 @tsjc68 Good point and I m fine taking a chance on Bradford over some other options that seem to be there right now J. Smooth 5pts @tsjc68 @J. Smooth @williamg1 It was as good as it could have been. He was never going to say anything of value, and somehow people were surprised when he said nothing of value. williamg1 5pts @Paul Samuels @williamg1 You think so? I never really felt that way. He was efficient in game 1, but that seemed about it to me. a57se 5pts @Paul Samuels @williamg1 not to everyone. williamg1 5pts @privatejet @jeezy29 Pretty sure jeezy is J smooth. jeezy29 5pts @williamg1 @jeezy29 @privatejet Good one. You're pretty funny for an ugly dude. tsjc68 5pts @Bytor @tsjc68 @BDarc23 I'm not talking about giving up picks for Bradford either. Just talking about signing him when he's a FA this winter, to a cheap, low-guarantee, heavy-on-incentives deal. BDarc23 5pts @Bytor @tsjc68 @BDarc23 I assume there is a QB drafted in the Bradford scenario tsjc68 5pts @BDarc23 @tsjc68 I didn't "purposely" leave anything out. It's right there in the numbers. Bradford made 24 starts in that two-year window, not the 32 that he was supposed to (and the window doesn't include 2014, because he has no games there.) tsjc68 5pts @jeezy29 @tsjc68 @BDarc23 Also part of my thinking. He'll probably take a short-term "prove it deal" with low guarantees and heavy on incentives, which plays into our strategy and allows us maximum flexibility in case we draft a kid who ends up being a stud and we want to shove Bradford aside. tsjc68 5pts @BDarc23 @Bent @tsjc68 And before the board spins this into another "tsjc LOOOVES Sam Bradford like David Garrard and predicts multiple pro-bowls", let me be explicit:I don't like Sam Bradford. I think he's pretty crappy.That being said, he might be the best option for us for 2015 to get actual semi-competent play from QB without sacrificing big money, draft assets, or future flexibility tsjc68 5pts @J. Smooth @tsjc68 @williamg1 Are there any Paraguayans here? No?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iLsDvGlIDh0 J. Smooth 5pts @williamg1 @Paul Samuels He looked like he was on the uptick in Green Bay, and then he suddenly forgot how to throw a football forever. privatejet 5pts @williamg1 Whoever he is, dude seems obsessed with you. williamg1 5pts @jeezy29 @williamg1 @privatejet How they hell you gonna talk about Bart like that? You're acting like he's Ducasse or something. Bytor 5pts @tsjc68 @Bytor @BDarc23 I didn't think he's a FA until 2016 unless the Rams release him. tsjc68 5pts @BDarc23 @Bytor @tsjc68 Yes. I'm not putting all my eggs in the Sam Bradford basket, that's crazy. Of course this scenario involves "sign Bradford as a veteran bridge" and "draft your QBOTF" in tandem. Tequila Joe 5pts @tsjc68 @jeezy29 @BDarc23 He should ply for free, his rookie contract was ridiculous. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent I'd take jason Campbell, Shaun hill or Matt Moore over bradford. J. Smooth 5pts @tsjc68 @J. Smooth @williamg1 To date, this is the furthest extent of my knowledge of Paraguay. williamg1 5pts @J. Smooth @williamg1 @Paul Samuels That's true. He did have that beautiful long pass to Decker. a57se 5pts @williamg1 @jeezy29 @privatejet I don't think jeezy knew that was bart... tsjc68 5pts @Bytor @tsjc68 @BDarc23 He is under contract for next year, yes. Virtually nobody expects the Rams to keep him, though, he'll probably be cut now that they have Austin Davis. They'd likely rather have the extra 12M in cap room than keep Bradford around to be Davis's backup. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent As much as I dislike Sam Bradford, he's actually outplayed all three of those other guys by quite a wide margin as an NFL pro. t__k 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent What a terrible convo to be having already, yet completely relevant.Hmm next year we could have Jason Campbell, S. Hill, Matt Moore, or Sam Bradford....hmmm who are we going to go with... williamg1 5pts @a57se @williamg1 @jeezy29 @privatejet You think so? That was a snap from his epic 'can't wait' rant. I think most Jets fans recognize that moment. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @Bytor @BDarc23 I'd be surprised if St. Louis lets' Bradford go... williamg1 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent I like Bradford the best. Just have to put him in an astronaut suit for injury prevention, though. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent Yes but the others are back-up QB's who actually know how to be a back-up QB. My goal is to find a starter in the draft. Bytor 5pts @t__k @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent Good times t__k, good times yet oddly fun with no pressure. a57se 5pts @williamg1 @a57se @jeezy29 @privatejet Like I said...he thought it was you. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @Bytor @BDarc23 You might be the only one, there. J. Smooth 5pts @williamg1 @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent But it's important to note that Bradford doesn't have any repeat injuries. They were both different knees, and while he definitely is injury prone he was a well above average starter when healthy last year. tsjc68 5pts @a57se @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent My goal is also to find a starter in the draft, and whether we're successful in that or not, we should be pairing that starter in the draft with as good of a veteran starter as possible, not just "a backup".I'd rather have Sam Bradford as that rookie's handcuff than a guy like Jason Campbell or Matt Moore, who just aren't as good anymore. williamg1 5pts @a57se @williamg1 @jeezy29 @privatejet lol J. Smooth 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @Bytor @BDarc23 Yeah, he's toast. This year was his last chance of all last chances. williamg1 5pts @J. Smooth @williamg1 @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent Good point. I would like us to find a starter in the draft, but I wouldn't mind having Bradford to bridge the period. Hell, even let Geno compete in a 3 man competition. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent Not sure bradford would sign up for that type of role...Vick took it because no one wanted to giive him a legit shot at starting.bradford should get that opportunity. I also don't think bradford will be available. Bklyn Dude 5pts @J. Smooth @tsjc68 @a57se @Bytor @BDarc23 Bradford's due almost 13m next year. I'm not sure anybody's trading for that number coming off an injury. J. Smooth 5pts @williamg1 @J. Smooth @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent I wouldn't mind Geno assuming a "Christian Ponder" type role, where he can fill in for an injured starter for one game and maybe give you slightly below average play. J. Smooth 5pts @Bklyn Dude @J. Smooth @tsjc68 @a57se @Bytor @BDarc23 He's getting cut. St Louis sure as sht aint paying that, a57se 5pts @J. Smooth @williamg1 @tsjc68 @a57se @BDarc23 @Bent Geno hasn't given us slightly above average play as a full time starter...WHY would anyone expect that from him as a back-up? J. Smooth 5pts @a57se @J. Smooth @williamg1 @tsjc68 @BDarc23 @Bent For starters, I said slightly below average.