Read: The Hockey News On Where The Rangers Will Finish

Last week, The Hockey News announced, in their annual yearbook, that they predict that the Rangers will finish in seventh place in the Eastern Conference.

Today, as they countdown where teams will finish, they explain why they put the Rangers seventh.

They say that the Rangers “One of the best defensive teams in the NHL last season backed by one of the game’s elite goalies in Henrik Lundqvist, the young blueline led by Marc Staal and Dan Girardi will take another step forward in 2011-12″ and that they can’t be worse after addressing their biggest need, with Brad Richards, in the offseason.

They pick Washington, Pittsburgh, Boston, Philadelphia, Buffalo and Tampa to finish ahead of the Rangers.

I have the Rangers finishing in sixth this season. I think that they will finish ahead of Buffalo, but behind Tampa and in what will likely be a close race for seeding and positioning.

Right now, where do you think the Rangers will finish this season?

60 comments
Jason C
Jason C

The most predictable offensive sets in the NBA. This is old news it was the same deal Atlanta. 

Carmelo is very wiling to the share the ball, its the offensive sets not Melo down the stretch. 

Melo went from the most efficient 4th quarter player in the NBA through out his career to 1-18 in clutch moments under Woodson, coincidence ? NO , its coaching. The last 4 minutes of the game is pure ISO ball let Melo bail us out and he does not rest him enough so hes worn out down the stretch. That is  coaching ! his rotations are terrible and he is loyal to a player that deserves no loyalty and does not know how to develop Shumpert , he does not put the kid in a position to succeed. 

Woodson was out coached in the Indiana series last year as he was during his playoffs run in Atlanta. 

What he did yesterday is inexcusable. Unless the Knicks o on a major run very soon , this dude is done. 

rico
rico

Knicks played well last night until the last 24 seconds. Woodson had brain-freeze, as did the rest of the squad.  It was sloppy and horrific but at least they played a good game.



JCFromCNJ
JCFromCNJ

Everybody has an off night. No doubt he made a few mistakes.


But, it's not as bad as say … the Dallas Cowboys throwing the ball up 12 points when they are getting 7 yes a carry. That's being aware and stupid.


This is more like a brain fart, they happen! 

ronzo
ronzo

How many games per year do you think a coach is the reason for a win or loss?  My guess is 5...so Woodson just messed up 20% of the games he has control over. At best, he can now only score an 80%

lindro88
lindro88

Everyone agrees that Woodson F'd up last night.  What no one is bothering to mention is that Carmelo Anthony, the franchise player, could have called a timeout on his own.  He clearly was waiting for one to be called.  Once he realized that it wasn't happening, its on him to make that call. 

knickster
knickster

When was the last time Carmelo made a "clutch" shot? I say it: he deserves no more that 17 millions per on a 3-year contract. He is NOT a superstar, but a great offensive player - the rest of his game is pretty mundane.

Keep him ONLY if the price is right.

nncyel
nncyel

Let's look at the alternative scenario. Time out gets called. Knicks inbound the ball to Melo who is 25' from the basket. He fakes left, he fakes right, he pulls up from 25', shot goes off the rim. That's the Knicks current end-of-game play option. So, although, it looks increasingly like Woodson deserves to be fired, I'm not sure Knicks calling a time out would have made a difference. Their end-of-game plays stink. Not sure whether that's Woodson's fault or Melo's, but I'm pretty sure Melo would not be happy if anyone other than him takes the last shot of the game.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

I think the only thing any knick fans want to hear is Woody being fired today.  However we all know that it's very unlikely.  Woody is with CAA, and unless there is a new coach with CAA the knicks would rather keep the puppet in charge.  The knicks aren't about W's or L's, they are all about the CAA agenda..

tifoso6
tifoso6

When I got up this morning I expected to read that Woodson had been fired. His lousy coaching cost the game: 1) failure to put his best defensive players on the floor for the

last washington possession; 2)failure to take a foul and 3) failure to call a time out.

This is madness.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@Jerry Gee "the prima donna Carmelo Anthony is proving himself a bum with his selfish play ...as I've always said and will continue to say...Carmelo Anthony is the WORST Point Guard in the NBA!!!!"



Really, when was Melo a PG in college or the NBA?  Where do they get these clueless fans from?  Please watch any Melo game and you will realize he is not a PG.  Felton, Prigioni, Udriuh, etc are the PGs on this team.  Melo is a SF that at times play PF. 


Melo is obviously sharing the ball...Stevie Wonder saw him sharing the ball.  Open your eyes and understand the game before you make a fool of yourself. 


This dude Jerry Gee needs to seriously get a life!!

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

why these Toronto clowns want a 1st rd pick for Lowry is beyond me but DO NOT GIVE HARDAWAY JR TO THESE SUCKAS!!

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

Woodson plays favoritism and seniority at a time when we need results.Everybody and their grandmother knows that Toure Murray may be a short term answer to the pg position before the trade. Give him some time on the flr. Considering the current record, what the hell can we really lose.

chuco
chuco

Fire woodson he did not put his team in a position to win he should have put murry in and called the time out 

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

Everybody gets on tv and backs Woodson. JVG, Steve Kerr, Stephen A. Im appauled by this. We have a vet team and with some young talent and a star,yet we cant beat teams like the Bobcats, Philly, and Boston without Rondo. This has got to be the most disgusting season in Knick history. Not just because of the win/loss column but because we have talent and we look like garbage. If I were Melo I would leave this HELL HOLE NOW. Yet the Broadway Bully hasnt even requested a trade. P.S.....If you bring Pau Gasol to NY for Tyson, Dolan has to give me a 1 on 1

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

Melo backed Woody even though he knows in his heart a time out shouldve been called. No rocket science behind this. This team has needed a pg since Melo got here. Felton comes in over weight every yr. He cant stay in front of any pgs and the worst part is, HES NOT EVEN A SET UP ARTIST! This is what Woody condones because if he didnt, it wouldnt be.

danewyorkr
danewyorkr

A coaches job is to simply give your team a chance to win. Woodson failed all season to prepare this team to face an opponent. I don't know how he continues to receive support on this blog by these so called intelligent fans. The look on Melo's face says it all about how the team feels about this brainless coach.

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

Dolan must want us to start throwin things in Garden. The management are clowns! 54-28 last yr. This season is still early and we are already close to a 20gm loss margin. If youre gonna keep Woody then MAKE A DAMN TRADE ALREADY!! Stop embarrassing your star player. JR comes out the slump and Woody blows the gm....smh! Woody has been embarrassing all season and Ive been tellin ppl this. Anytime your team plays 4 out 1 in without Tyson on the flr....Youre asking to be out rebounded and youre also showing that you prefer your team to continue you to shoot no matter how horrible they do.

zebeto
zebeto

this guy has been such a letdown.............

jimmybx
jimmybx

It's truly disappointing when a guy like Moke is trying to "analyze" what happened down the stretch. Moke, I think you should be following my takes out here. You're embarrassing New Yorkers with this piece. Another reason why reporters/"analysts" should have played some level of basketball other than a video game. 


What game were you watching, young man? Beal had been torturing the Knicks off the pick and rolls most of the game. If you were paying attention, you would have noticed that the Wizards attacked us when Shumpert wasn't on either Wall or Beal with the pick and roll. 


Just before the winning basket, Beal had nailed a three following a screen where he ended up with Bargnani on him after...get ready for this....a pick and roll.  As a coach, I would have spotted that play as well and reminded the team in the huddle to be very aware of the screen. 


The reason you put a smaller guy on Beal is because the smaller guy wouldn't allow penetration. The error wasn't solely on Woodson, but on Beno and here's why. Basketball 101. What do you take away from the dribbler? You take away the drive, but more importantly you take away the baseline. Beno wasn't paying attention to floor balance. The real culprit was Bargnani. Bargnani has no reason to chase Gortat to the 3 point line. Nowhere in your 
"analysis" do you make light of this blunder by the defense. Bargnani was the C on this play. The C's job is to defend the paint. 


After years of me schooling you on The Knicks Fix, one would think you would comprehend basketball a little better. And NO Amare, JR or Shump wouldn't have been ideal guys to defend Beal and I will explain why. 


1. JR doesn't have the lateral speed to keep up with Beal. Last year, JR could have. This year, it's not an option. Aren't you watching the games, Moke?

2. The Ron Artest of 2004 would have locked up Beal. This version of Artest would have been backing up as soon as Beal put the ball on the floor. You're really suggesting Artest? LOL

3. Shump could have been used, but that would have led to a screen and a switch with Gortat and a certain mismatch with Beal getting Bargnani or Melo on him. Beal is too elusive for either. Beal forced every possible switch off picks. 

4. That leaves Beno and my explanation as to why he simply walked by Beno. If Beno plays it straight up, he forces Beal to shoot the jumper. 


The only other option is Hardaway and he's not to be trusted with that type of defensive responsibility. He's been going for the upfakes all season. You can't leave him on an island with Beal. What should have happened was Andrea eschewing perimeter defense on Gortat once he went above the foul line and stayed foul line extended. That would have given him ample time to rotate over to a penetrating Beal. 


We can bash Woodson for not calling timeout. Bashing Woodson for anything else is amateurish, Moke. Feel free to contact me if you want to write a better article on the Knicks. I won't charge you....lol





Juan Maldonado
Juan Maldonado

Did yall know that chris smith on Saturday scored like 28 points n had 4 assist n jeremy tyler had like 22 points... but i couldnt believe the stats when i saw it... i said "Chris smith?" Lol

joeknix
joeknix

@lindro88 100% disagree.  If you've ever played basketball on a team you know that timeouts are not your job to manage.  It's up to the coach to tell the players what to do in that situation.  When the Knicks were in the huddle before Beal made the winning shot Woodson should have told his players two things #1 We have a foul to give.  #2 if they score call a timeout.  Done. 


When Melo had the ball in his hands Woody still could call the timeout but he didn't.  This is on the coach not Melo.

lindro88
lindro88

@knickster He didn't have a chance to make one last night.  If you want to get on Melo, get on him for not being smart enough to call a timeout on his own.  

georock
georock

@nncyel yeah but by firing woodson you can get a coach that, you know, calls good plays, or any plays, or shows passion, or that his head is in fact not lodged in his ass

lindro88
lindro88

@Kvdaone Woddy blew it last night, but Melo could have called the timeout himself.  Can you think of any "superstar" who would dribble slowly up the court, looking half confused and than launch an off balance 25 foooter?  You think Chris Paul would have done that?  

dullah
dullah

#shutyodumbassup... your condescendence makes you sound like a bitch...

Eric Londregan
Eric Londregan

then go write articles somewhere you troll.

also, your shump excuse is weak - I'm pretty sure any number of switches (which may or may not have happened) out of a p&r would have been better than an ISO blow-by with udrih on beal. the point moke makes about offense-defense subs is pretty sound so lay off.

knickster
knickster

It's much simpler than that: these things happen often to bad teams. The knicks are a bad team. Coach is bad, roster is bad.

lindro88
lindro88

@OLD_KNICK How about Carmelo calling a timeout?  Do you think any other franchise player would allow a game to end that way?  Its on Woodson, but Melo could have taken it into his own hands and called a timeout.  

tommy2b
tommy2b

@OLD_KNICK you could see on the replays right after beal scored Beno starts yelling at Bargs... Also after the final shot Beno turns back to give it to him.  It looked like he was intentionally letting Beal go baseline expecting help.


Well, at least starting wednesday we'll have Tyson defending the paint again.  

smiggybalz
smiggybalz

well youre about ten years too late with that revelation(about Melo) but the thing that IRKS me,beside that phoney smile,is the fact he still would rather argue,or stare down refs,instead of getting back on defense to help the team out.he should know by now,that the refs arent gonna call a foul on someone,after the fact,just cuz Melo is standing there smirking at them

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Jerry Gee 

Give it up and get a grip.

Right now no one's playing harder than Melo.

It's not his fault he follows his coach's instructions.

You bash on Woodson yet you fail tu understand Melo is only following team instructions.

Ridiculous comment.

lindro88
lindro88

@joeknix @lindro88 I agree with you that this is on the coach.  My point is that once it was clear no timeout was being called from the bench, instead of watching the clock dwindle down to 0, Melo has to either call a timeout on his own, or get the ball into the  front court a hell of a lot faster than he did.  He said after the game he was "waiting for the timeout" He is a 9 year player, a "franchise" player. He can't allow the game to end on an off balance 25 foot shot.  Thats all I am saying.  These aren't high school kids.  

knickster
knickster

Melo wanted the ball. Look at the replay on Youtube and you will see CLEARLY how he ASKS Udrih for the ball. He did not want a timeout, he wanted to take that last shot.

However, none of that is the reason for not wanting the Knicks to cripple themselves by giving an aging and deteriorating Melo a max contract he does not deserve. I base my position of the fact, before and during melo's performance in Denver and new York. He is not a superstar....

jimmybx
jimmybx

@Eric Londregan Awwwww you're defending Moke. Moke, and a host of 20 something year olds who have been following my takes for AGES on the internet, should know better than to write some NOVICE article without talking REAL BASKETBALL. Then again, Moke isn't unlike many e-analysts. Gotta know what you're talking about before you breakdown a coach or player. I'm just arrogant and knowledgeable enough to correct him....AND MOKE KNOWS IT. LOL 


Any FOOL can surmise that this player or that player could have been better, but talking about Amare or Artest on Beal is ridiculous. It's actually embarrassing to suggest. Hopefully, Moke learns from this thrashing and doesn't make such a foolish comment AGAIN. Leave that STUPIDITY for the monkeys at bleacherreport. 


Shumpert on Beal would have led to either Bargnani on Beal or the ball in Wall's hands with a slower JR Smith on him. No one on the team can stay in front of Wall, which would have led to a breakdown on the perimeter resulting in an open jumper for either Webster (the reason he had 30 points btw) or Beal. 


Don't talk back to me, rookie. You're not on my level either. 



Chris
Chris

@lindro88 @OLD_KNICK Once the ball is inbounded, you  don`t get to move the ball to the front court, you get it where the to occurs.There were 3 bounces and no TO from the bench, the coach makes that decision  not the player. Melo is a player, Woody is the coach, what part don`t you understand. My players never called TOs without me saying so. If its not called its on the coach period, move on

lindro88
lindro88

@tommy2b @OLD_KNICK Having the team's worst help defender as the last line of defense was yet another blunder by Woodson.  Bargs can do one thing well on defense. Guard his man.  He is a better defender than I thought. He is also the worst off the ball defender on a team that includes Amare

lindro88
lindro88

@VerySilentJay @Jerry Gee Melo is playing hard, which he's supposed to do.  He also could have called a timeout last night.  No doubt Woodson is to blame for the way that game ended, but if you are a franchise player, a true superstar, you have to take things into your own hands.  Melo said he was waiting for a timeout to be called. Why was he slowly taking the ball up the court as the clock was running out?  Bottom line is he had to either call a timeout on his own, or  hurry the ball up the court and get a better shot.  He is supposed to be an elite player in this league.  I can't imagine too many elite players getting off a worse shot than he did.  Ive always been a fan of Carmelo, since his Cuse days.  I've now watched him daily for his entire time here and I can say that he is not a franchise player.  He is a great scorer, but he is not an elite all around player. 

Chris
Chris

@Jerry Gee You understand very little about the coaching profession from your comments. The TO before the last play is where everything should have been spelled out. The Knicks huddles are a dysfunctional mess with Dumphony, now with Woodsen. This all mess is directly on the coach. Herb knows more about the game then this idiot. Note Herb is actually trying to coach as this fake freezes time after time. The fact that he is still on the bench is beyond belief. You are really non knowledgeable about basketball and body language

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Jerry Gee 

What are you supposed to do if your teammates are frozen, not knowing what to do, and your coach is clueless as to how to handle a situation with less than 7 seconds to go?

I'm sure you would've handled it like a true pro.

It's not about worshipping, it's about being real. He's no LBJ, he's no Kobe. Those who try to comparison don't get it. 

He's one of the best scorers in the league and by far our best player. If you can't see that then that's your issue.


Playing the point? As it stands, we have no playmakers with Prigioni out. With all the attention Melo gets, he's in a prime position to facilitate out of a double or a triple. He's playing his position just fine, far outrebounding other SF's of this league. With Woodson's very simple and one dimensional system, the ball movement starts with Melo. I'm assuming you at least know that. It's not that he's trying to play point, it's the way the system's been built.

Just like it was last season.

Go back and look.