Cartoon: Santa Isn’t A Miracle Worker December 24th, 2012 6:33 pm It seems hockey fans may not be getting all they want for Christmas this year. #EndTheLockout #NHL #Hockey #Santa #Christmas A photo posted by theScore (@thescore) on Dec 23, 2012 at 7:43pm PST via The Score on Instagram 261 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest rexryguy 5pts My latet Fanspeak Simulation. let me know what you thinkLeft to spend- 6,250,000 QB- Geno, Jake Locker, Orton RB- AP, ivory, powell FB- bohanon WR- Decker, Percy, Kerley, Denarius Moore, Brian Hartline, Salas, Owusu, Evans, TE- Gresham, Amero, Ed Dickson, Sudfield LT- Brick, Winters LG- Chris Chester, Oday C- Mangold, Freeman, Johnson RG- Orlando Franklin, Dozier RT- Breno LDE- Greg Hardy, Babin, IK RDE- Wilkerson, Douzable DT- Dame, Sheldon, Terrence Cody, TJ Barnes LOLB- Malcolm Smith, Couples, MLB- Rolando McClain, Paul Posluszny, Davis, Bellore ROLB- Orakpo, Reilly CB- Maxwell, Captain Munnerlyn, Buster Skrine, Milner, McDougle, Williams, Walls FS- Pryor, Jarret, Miles SS- Dwight Lowery, Allen, Taylor Mays P- Quigley K- Succop Round 1- Cooper (WR Alb) Round 2- Ogbuehi (Texas A&M OT) Rond 3- Hauoli Kikaha (OLB WASH) Round 4- Josh Shaw (CB USC) Round 5- Jeff Heuerman (Ohio State TE) Round 7- (Xzavier Dickson OLB Alb) jimmyc 5pts Mariota lol jimmyc 5pts Kipper has maroons for jets a57se 5pts Hey, the Mets' rotation is getting a lot of love!!!http://www.numberfire.com/mlb/news/4355/how-good-is-the-new-york-mets-starting-rotation?utm_source=outbrain&utm_medium=all_rss&utm_campaign=ob_all_rss Marvel 5pts We doing that thing where we look at Evans and Dex and additional 2015 draft picks to make our haul look bigger this draft ? hazard2012 5pts Latest GM sim:Cut: Harvin, Hakim, CJ, Bohanon, Winters, Cumby, Pace, Walt Powell, BabinRe signed: Bilal Powell, Conner, Dooz, Ellis, Bellore, Landry, Purdum. Extended Jarrett, Snacks, Mo.FAcy: Shawn Hill QB, Roy Helu RB, Eddie Royal WR, Jermaine Gresham TE, Justin Houston OLB, Rey Maualuga ILB, Byron Maxwell CB, Rashean Mathis CB, Da'Norris Searcy SStill have $19M in capDrafted:1. Mariota QB2. Jaelen Strong WR3. Tevin Coleman RB4. Cedric Ogbeuhi OT5. Jeff Heuerman TE7. Damian Swann CB Marvel 5pts Is the Harvin stuff just speculation ? williamg1 5pts Well, at least we only wasted a $7M and a 6th rounder on Harvin. MikeFrancesser 5pts The best QB on your roster by far is retired. gottem13x 5pts @jimmyc Yes, yes Mariota Brendan 5pts @jimmyc Dude, what? J. Smooth 5pts @jimmyc English please. J. Smooth 5pts @a57se Waiting for 57 to slide in some cheap, uninformed dig at the Mets. Waiting. gottem13x 5pts @a57se STACKEDDDD J. Smooth 5pts @Marvel I do. Free rookies! a57se 5pts @Marvel What thing are you talking about? richtodd 5pts @hazard2012 Like scenario proposed, yes. One caveat: I wouldn't cut Walt Powell before camp. He's at least serviceable as a returner. I actually think think he has some upside. Also, hasn't Salas had enough looks?? I mean maybe Gailey will be good for him, but we've kept Salas around for a while now. I think I would try to resign Harvin for a lower number if he's available after the "waiting period." a57se 5pts @hazard2012 You don't show the contracts you doled out...that helps in evaluating. a57se 5pts @hazard2012 Not sure why you are cutting Hakim, Bohanon, Winters,and powell.You don't save anything in cap space and if nothing else, they are camp bodies that you need to pace your better players. Marvel 5pts Nice. gottem13x 5pts @hazard2012 19 mil!! you could have gotten Suh as well! a57se 5pts @Marvel Yes. gottem13x 5pts @Marvel Well Cimini's name is on it so your call. tsjc68 5pts Who here said "there's no downside?"Point him out. a57se 5pts @williamg1 Thank You John Idzik. a57se 5pts @J. Smooth @jimmyc Something about Mel Kiper and his latest mock draft? My guess, Cooper?EDIT:Guess it is: Kiper has Mariota for jets. a57se 5pts @J. Smooth @a57se Nah, not gonna bust your chops today...I hope the Mets do well especially for my Jet fan brethren who love the Mets. Marvel 5pts Lmaooo Marvel 5pts Wen injured draft picks from a prior year come back healthy. I do it. A mindset thing. hazard2012 5pts @a57se @hazard2012 I cut Hakim, Bo, Winters and Powell because I don't think they bring much to the table and believe that I can do better in UDFAcy, etc or by going back and picking up some minor pieces from among unsigned FA's, etc. As you know, the GM sim doesn't allow for camp bodies, etc., and ends before you really complete your roster. With the above team, I'm not worried too much about camp bodies. This team could compete with just about anyone right now. Marvel 5pts New camp bodies with actual potential > hazard2012 5pts @gottem13x @hazard2012 I got Houston, that's better. Houston with our DL and this secondary ... williamg1 5pts "There is NO DOWNSIDE in trading for Harvin!!!" jimmyc 5pts Sorry about that joemustgo 5pts @a57se @J. Smooth Generation K 2.0. Bent moderator 5pts @Marvel ROUND ZERO! a57se 5pts @hazard2012 @a57se The free agent lists include guys you can get real cheap...I just don't see the point in cutting them before you have to but whatever. a57se 5pts @Marvel I don't see any new camp bodies on his list...no need to cut the old ones until you get the new ones...minor point but still valid. dabronx 5pts @hazard2012 @gottem13x Houston is going nowhere. Worst case for KC is they franchise tag him. gottem13x 5pts @hazard2012 @gottem13x I know I'm just messing around. That would be one heck of a first year for Macc if it went down that way. a57se 5pts @williamg1 "It's a COUP! " tsjc68 5pts Are you gonna miss that 7M?Really? Brendan 5pts @joemustgo This is why people don't like Yankee fans. J. Smooth 5pts @joemustgo @a57se @J. Smooth Strongly resisting the urge to respond to that.Failing...Stop. Generation K was merely a ploy to counteract the Yankees "Core 4". None of those pitchers had ever pitched on the Major League level with success. All three of the Mets young guys have. End of discussion. Marvel 5pts He can't name the UDFAs we've yet to sign. And I don't do sims , is it possible he cut those guys to make room for his new player additions ? hazard2012 5pts @dabronx @hazard2012 @gottem13x Fully understand that and agree, but in the Fanspeak GM sim he reached FAcy so I took him. harold 5pts @a57se So if we get a 26 year old Harvin to take 7.5 million and give up a 4th is that a bad trade? williamg1 5pts Yes. Last offseason we were told spending $7m on a CB or another WR was prohibitive and a waste. Well, once we committed to dumping $7M on Harvin (when the season was already over) it became no biggie. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 Yes...that is one or two more players we CAN'T sign this off season. a57se 5pts @Brendan @joemustgo Was that a swipe at the Mets by joemustgo? a57se 5pts @Marvel I'm not trying to read into what he does...he can explain, that's why I asked. a57se 5pts @harold If i had a bigger bank account I could reitre... tsjc68 5pts Yes, because the calculus at that point was different. a57se 5pts @williamg1 Yup remember 68 telling us that ALL the CB's were OVERPAYED last year and how smart Idzik was for not overpaying!!!Now we're supposed to overpay Harvin...Unwise say you? tsjc68 5pts Wake me when we spend that first 60M and are now sad that we can't spend the next 7. harold 5pts @a57se I will take that as a no. Thanks williamg1 5pts We committed to wasting $1M per game of cap space once the season was over. $7M for 7 games. I prefer to dedicate that money to address needs BEFORE the season is over. Plus, Harvin is a nut. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 Hahaha... tsjc68 5pts Overpaying Harvin with no guaranteed money is very different than overpaying Dominique Rodgers Cromartie with lots of guaranteed money. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 I like you best when you are sleeping... a57se 5pts @harold Take it as a yes.I thought you were brighter than this. tsjc68 5pts We have like 70M of cap space over this two-year span.7M with no long-term repercussions is a tiny price to pay for the gamble. If it didn't work, we're not negatively impacted in any real way. Harvin's brief trip in Green won't actually prevent Maccagnan from building a good roster for 2015.That's why the trade was smart. Not because it was destined to work, but becaus if it worked it would be great and if it didn't we wouldn't be harmed. a57se 5pts @williamg1 B-b-but the calculus is different... fatrex 5pts @tsjc68 I think the point here is that Harvin was not a necessary move for a team that was obviously hot garbage, and now it's cost us flexibility (although we have plenty, more is always better) harold 5pts @a57se State your own opinion or someone will state it for you. Also under the premise I laid out for Harvin why do you think it would be a bad trade? williamg1 5pts At this point, we have so many holes that we need every dollar possible. And then we need to resign our d line. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 10% of your cap space is significant, i don't know where you learned math and economics but you ought to get your money back. tsjc68 5pts It doesn't cost us flexibility, though. It just doesn't. a57se 5pts @harold I did state my opinion, you just didn't get it. tsjc68 5pts There's not enough players to sign to possibly spend all that money anyway.It's a non-factor. a57se 5pts @williamg1 Meh, what's 7 million dollars...we can just throw it away.We can throw more away by just keeping harvin at 10.5 million.We can afford it!!! fatrex 5pts @tsjc68 any time you lose a draft pick for nothing it costs you flexibility, that extra 7 million could go to Justin Houston or someone, c'mon. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 B-b-because I say so!!! a57se 5pts @harold As for your hypothetical, that is still too much money for harvin and his headaches. Minnesota and Seattle figured it out, let's learn from their mistakes instead of making another one ourselves. a57se 5pts @tsjc68 So throw it away!!! Brilliant response!!!I feel face palmed! J. Smooth 5pts @fatrex @tsjc68 Does it though? I'm pretty sure that 7M only affected last years cap, not this years. tsjc68 5pts We will be able to afford any and all free agents we want. Not being able to carry that 7M forward in a year where we already have 40M plus of room impacts NOTHING. In fact, it helps us approach the CBA spending minimums, which HELPS US. tsjc68 5pts No, don't throw it away. Spend it on a gamble, like Harvin. a57se 5pts @J. Smooth @fatrex @tsjc68 you're wrong. fatrex 5pts @J. Smooth @fatrex @tsjc68 Doesn't it carry over? fatrex 5pts @tsjc68 We do not need help approaching the CBA spending minimums a57se 5pts @tsjc68 Unwise. J. Smooth 5pts @a57se @J. Smooth @fatrex @tsjc68 Ok, 57. J. Smooth 5pts @fatrex @J. Smooth @tsjc68 I don't think his $7M hurts this offseasons cap. I thought it would just be this years 10.5 if we kept him. a57se 5pts @fatrex @J. Smooth @tsjc68 Yes it would have if we didn't spend it.