Stats: Derek Stepan Had An Assist In Finland Today and Scored The Shootout Winner

Derek Stepan picked up the secondary assist today for KalPa on the game tying goal in the third period in the team’s 4-3 win over TPS and Lauri Korpikoski.

Stepan also scored the shootout winner for KalPa with a wrist shot.

Stepan played 23:29 and was a plus two. He had three shots on goal.

Shot Chart:

Stepan is  wearing 22 for KalPaa




460 comments
longshot
longshot

It is so pathetic when all Jets fans can talk about is the Draft starting 4 games into the season.

johnsec125
johnsec125

All i want is the next Andrew Luck. But not as ugly. Is that too much to ask?

j_spikett
j_spikett

when you start talking about the draft in the beginning of november then you might as well start following the knicks. not that the knicks are any better.

WW85
WW85

Winston + NYC is a very bad combination. I like the idea of Mariota learning from Vick for a season. Re; Foles: there was a big article a few months ago how the Eagles had scouted him & I believe MM was the guy who did the work on him.


Every QB is going to be worse on the Jets until we solve some of our glaring problems. 

fatrex
fatrex

Here is Walter's view on Winston and Mariota


Jameis Winston, QB, Florida State. Previous Rank: 1 
11/5/14: Winston had a mixed outing against Louisville as he made some amazing throws and also had some uncharacteristic mistakes. Winston completed 25-of-48 passes for 401 yards with three touchdowns and three interceptions. He is generally good about ball security, but is only one away from matching his 2013 interception total of 10. 

If it weren't for the off-the-field concerns, Winston would be the hands-down first pick in the 2015 NFL Draft. He is a better pocket passer and is more accurate than Marcus Mariota. However, the possibility of Winston sabotaging his NFL career with off-the-field run-ins is a real concern. 

Against Notre Dame, Winston finished completing 23-of-31 passes for 273 yards with two touchdowns and an interception. He was suspended against Clemson for shouting an explicit phrase from a viral internet video in the cafeteria. It wasn't a crime, but it once again displayed Winston's lack of judgment and maturity off the field. His suspension almost, and should have, cost his team a loss. In his return to the field, Winston led a huge Florida State comeback against N.C. State. He completed 26-of-38 passes for 365 yards with four touchdowns and two interceptions. 

Winston had a so-so performance in the season opener against Oklahoma State. He made some uncharacteristic, bad decisions with the football, but also flashed his skill set as a pocket passer who can make all the throws for the NFL. Winston also had a highlight-reel 28-yard touchdown run. 

In 2014, Winston has completed 67 percent of his passes for 2,279 yards with 16 touchdowns and nine interceptions. 

9/2/14: Winston took college football by storm in 2013 as the Heisman Trophy winner. The redshirt freshman demonstrated a quality arm with well-developed passing ability. His field vision was amazing for a first-year starter. Winston was very advanced with his ability to scan the field, work through his progressions and make a good decision on where to throw the football. 

The 6-foot-4, 228-pounder completed 67 percent of his passes for 4,057 yards with 40 touchdowns and 10 interceptions. On the ground, he ran for 219 yards with four touchdowns. 

Winston has to show leadership and maturity off the field while dealing with the explosion of his celebrity. Multiple sources from around the league have told WalterFootball.com that Winston has significant off-the-field issues. 




Mariota


Marcus Mariota, QB, Oregon. Previous Rank: 7 
11/5/14: Against Stanford, Mariota finished 19-for-30 for 258 yards with two scores throwing and two touchdowns rushing. He had 85 yards on nine carries. As a pocket passer, Mariota had some nice plays and also missed a few throws. He made big plays for Oregon and finally got the monkey off his back after losing to Stanford the previous two years. Mariota illustrated that he has potential as a pocket passer, but still has a lot to learn to be able to thrive from the pocket. 

Against Washington, Mariota completed 24-of-33 passes for 336 yards with two touchdowns. He also flashed some good throws from the pocket. Versus UCLA, Mariota completed 17-of-27 passes for 210 yards with two touchdowns. He also ran for 75 yards on seven carries with two touchdowns. It was a good tape for Mariota's impressive physical skill set, but he didn't answer questions about his pocket-passing ability. 

Against Arizona, Mariota completed 20-of-32 passes for 276 yards with two touchdowns. While his numbers weren't bad, he didn't put the Ducks on his back and push them to victory. Mariota had opportunities for big plays and missed a number of throws with poor accuracy and ball placement. That tape won't help his chances of being the first quarterback taken in the 2015 NFL Draft or the No. 1 overall pick. 

In Week 2, Mariota made some huge, clutch passes and runs to lead the Ducks back from a deficit to beat Michigan State. Against the Spartans, he completed 17 of 28 passes for 318 yards with three touchdowns. Mariota showed some pocket-passing ability, but he still needs development there. Still, Mariota showed his strong arm, athleticism, and toughness. He also did a great job of protecting the football. It was an impressive performance from Mariota. 

So far this season, Mariota has completed 69 percent of his passes for 2,283 yards with 24 touchdowns and one interception. He also has five rushing touchdowns. 

9/2/14: There is no doubt that Mariota has great physical tools. The 6-foot-4, 211-pound has a strong arm, size and excellent mobility. As a passer, Mariota can do it all, but could use some refinement in his mechanics, footwork, and his pocket passing in general. He has been a dominant point-machine since taking over as Oregon's starting quarterback. 

In 2013, Mariota completed 64 percent of his passes for 3,665 yards with 31 touchdowns and four interceptions. On the ground, the redshirt sophomore ran for 715 yards with nine touchdowns. While Mariota did a great job of avoiding throwing picks, he had some issues with fumbles. In 2012 as a first-year starter, Mariota completed 69 percent of his passes for 2,677 yards with 32 touchdowns and six interceptions. 

One NFL general manager told WalterFootball.com that Mariota is vastly overrated. Sources from other teams don't agree with that assessment, so Mariota and Winston will have different teams preferring one or the other

gottem13x
gottem13x

If they did somehow trade for Foles. Waters would be a great 3-4 rounder, still allowing us to get the gaping needs.

fatrex
fatrex

Can we start getting BGA's of QB prospects once a week or so to provide some hope to this sanitarium? I'd really like your thoughts on the Wintson/Mariota/Hundley/Cook debate.

williamg1
williamg1

Just wait until one of these planes carrying banners has an accident. If you're a true Jets fan, you know its fate. 

buddyryan
buddyryan

I want a new GM but I don't get the spending thousands of dollars on the banners, billboards etc.  The loudest statement we can make is not paying money for tickets, merchandise, etc.

gottem13x
gottem13x

Alright so trade for Foles draft Cooper sign Revis and Flowers....Ha seems easy enough. Go get em Idzik.

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

If Idzik gets fired this year, how long until Jets fans turn on the new one? Day after the draft? First loss? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@johnsec125


Well, I was thinking the other day about what kind of character do you need to be a successful QB in New York and I think Luck's kinda dorky football-obsessed persona is perfect.  Reminds me of Chad.


Failing that, Vinny Testaverde Junior will be coming out in 3-4 years.

Bent
Bent moderator

@j_spikett It's a good job we started talking about it in mid-September then.


Wait...

fatrex
fatrex

@WW85 Need more talent on offense in general

oddmanrush
oddmanrush

@fatrex Is it so much to ask for the NCAA to produce some pure pocket passers anymore? I'm so tired of the dual threat QBs that are coming out because they don't focus enough on one thing. It's different when you are a pocket passing QB that can make a key run here and there like Aaron Rodgers or Ben Roethlisberger, but these guys are immediately checking to the run if their first or second options are covered. ,,,and they get injured much more frequently due to the constant hits. 


I'm tired of the Tim Tebow's and Johnny Manziel's of the world. Give me some more Brady's, Manning's and Brees'.



tsjc68
tsjc68

@fatrex

At the moment, I'm leaning towards "neither".

tsjc68
tsjc68

@gottem13x

I'm not sure trading for Foles makes any sense unless Foles is allowed to bring the Philly offensive line with him.

Brendan
Brendan

@fatrex If you stick around until the offseason or pre-offseason, the TJB commentariat does some great work scouting potential draftees. 

Bent
Bent moderator

@fatrex I won't be watching any of them until after the season, I'm afraid.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@buddyryan If we were 1-9 but loved our GM, merchandise sales would go down too, so I don't know that the message "we don't want to spend money on a 1-9 team" equates to "if you fire the GM, we will be happy" quite like spelling it out.

jaygo
jaygo

@buddyryan  You got it buddy.  The only thing worse than being talked about is not being talked about.  

gottem13x
gottem13x

Oh sorry and sign Demarco Murray too...

Bklyn Dude
Bklyn Dude

@J. Smooth 

If Idzik gets fired this year, how long until Jets fans turn on the new one? Day after the draft? First loss? 

Any GM doesn't have long if he can't find a franchise QB.  That is the only thing that can put the franchise on the right track.  Fans think the GM can make magic out of the crappy QB's that were available.

I haven't heard one person whining and complaining about John Idzik tell us which guy they would have playing QB during the past two years or going forward.

hazard2012
hazard2012

@J. Smooth


Think it all depends on what he does and how he does it.   This is a tough franchise and tough situation to cut your teeth on...but the Jets need a Phil Jackson, Parcells or Polian type figure with the track record, credentials and presence to buy the time needed to assemble a team and who can weather a few misses and mistakes.     


BUT...


...If you succeed in transforming the Jets into a perennial power demanding respect you'll become instant legend.   Big job, enormous challenge, low probability of success...which is why you need a big ego to fill those shoes.   A rookie, unassuming and inflexible cap guy with no proven track record has no chance of getting it done.      

johnsec125
johnsec125

@Bent @johnsec125 Maybe we can get Payton Manning junior in 21 years. Forget that, his grandfather would never let him play for the Jets.

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 If the Jets are picking top 5 and both are there, they'd be insane not to take one, imo. Both are worthy of top billing. 

fatrex
fatrex

@tsjc68 @fatrex You need to  come away from this offseason with a long term solution at qb, you wanna wait until later rounds?

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @gottem13x


With Sanchez having gone to Philly and basically looking like Foles, I can imagine Foles coming here and looking like Sanchez.

fatrex
fatrex

@Brendan @fatrex I know, I've been around, just never commented, I just thought since this season has been such a disaster it may be appropriate to lighten the tenor of discussion around here. There are positives even in being terrible

tsjc68
tsjc68

@gottem13x @fatrex

Winston: Maybe

Mariota: Maybe

Hundley: Maybe

Cook: Maybe, but starting to lean "no"

Mannion: No, not at all

Waters: Slowly growing on me, but probably still a "no"

Petty: No

Bent
Bent moderator

@fatrex


I have seen Dak Prescott play once and Brandon Bridge multiple times.

fatrex
fatrex

@gottem13x Never sign FA running backs to big contracts, he's running behind the best line in football

Brendan
Brendan

@gottem13x Jerry Jones is going to stitch his old, pasty body to Murray so he can claim decision making rights over him and resign him to a lifetime deal. 

dgdg
dgdg

Tanny got a fair period of appreciation before it all went downhill, but he earned it w/ some decent personnel moves, draft picks, etc.

Brendan
Brendan

@hazard2012 Jets fans would run Polian out after two sht drafts like he's had over and over throughout his career. 


I don't really get the fascination with Polian, if I'm being honest. He fell into Peyton Manning and spent the next decade not building a defense. Like, he had so many chance to build that unit up and just....*fart noise*. 


I'm not against the idea of a guy like that in a consultant role, but a) who is available that fits that criteria and b) do they want to actually come here and deal with this? 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Brendan @J. Smooth Then again, what decent football mind would want to come here if this is the level of patience the fanbase has, especially if the owner somehow is listening to fanbase pressure? Firing Idzik now puts us on a slippery slope to being the GM equivalent of the Browns.

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Brendan @tsjc68 I think Mariota is a solid step below Winston in terms of NFL readiness. A solid QB coach should be able to tweak his throwing motion (the only real knock on his game), and every indication from firsthand accounts says that this dude has a prodigious football IQ and is a top notch locker room leader. 


None of the off-the-field stuff (with the exception of the assault allegations which I can't speculate on one way or the other) goes particularly past anything that I, as a fellow college student, would deem irredeemable. 

tsjc68
tsjc68

@fatrex @tsjc68

Yes, we need a new solution at QB.


I'm not sure that solution exists this offseason, is what I'm saying.  Does that suck?  Yes.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@gottem13x @tsjc68

My point is that Nick Foles is probably a mirage, and that trading for him isn't actually upgrading anything.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @gottem13x

Marty apparently liked Foles somewhat, though.  I read somewhere in the past few days (can't remember where) that there was a split amongst the Philly braintrust on taking Foles vs. Kirk Cousins, and that Marty was on the Foles side.


This may be relevant, or it may be moot if Marty Mornhinweg is no longer employed by the New York Jets in 2015.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@J. Smooth @Brendan To be fair, it's not like Idzik has made solid log-term moves at the expense of the short-term, causing a 1-8 start which has an impatient fanbase upset. His long-term moves have not been good either (and I know you can't always judge long-term in the short-term, but so far there is enough evidence that his instincts are not good).

williamg1
williamg1

@J. Smooth @Brendan

Yes, we should have patience for a GM who enters the 3rd year of his 'plan' needing a new coach, QB, and reconstructed roster. 

fatrex
fatrex

@J. Smooth @Brendan Tannenbaum didn't have that problem for the first half decade he was here, you're exaggerating, this is New York City, people work their whole lives to get here  

Brendan
Brendan

@J. Smooth I wouldn't want to be the GM of this team. Millions of experts who apparently know how to do your job better than you after logging a few hours playing Madden franchise mode? Yeah, no thanks. 

fatrex
fatrex

@J. Smooth @Brendan @tsjc68 Well I think the major knock on mariota is that he hasn't been put in the pressure cooker, his throws are great but they're often to open receivers because of oregon's scheme. His release is excellent. Also, watching winston against louisville, he kid made some terrible football decisions, even the last touchdown of the game should have been picked by the defense.Given the INSANE talent around him cleaning up some mistakes, why is the public perception so aligned with this "high football iq" idea? 

Bent
Bent moderator

@tsjc68 @Bent @fatrex Yes, I did not see an NFL quarterback in him.


Bridge has a little Kaepernick in him though.  

Brendan
Brendan

@fatrex This always makes me laugh. Reminds me of Bill Simmons' commentary on the old Wolves' GM when he cornered the market on injury-prone PG's. 

Brendan
Brendan

@DarrolRayFanClub I'd say those long-term moves are mixed. 


Decker and Harvin? Good. 


Geno? God dammit. 

Brendan
Brendan

@williamg1 You can't hold needing a new coach against him when he didn't bring in the coach to begin with. 

Brendan
Brendan

@fatrex That's because NY sports fans are near-sighted and reactive. They loved Tanny without realizing the damage he was doing the future, but turned on him in less than a year. They call it "being demanding" but it's just being impatient and reactive. 

WW85
WW85

@Brendan The fact is Idzik has shown incompetence. This isn't a question of giving him time. He didn't do his primary job of filling holes on the roster & he had the ability to do so. His talent evaluation has sucked as well. If he had bothered to sign an NFL caliber CB or draft one this past off season, I think he'd be given a lot more wiggle room--or maybe if he allowed Rex to bench Geno earlier--"Organizational decision" What a joke. His arrogance that he is smarter than all of us & thinks he can Billy Beane his way to NFL wins with Patterson, converted safety, bunch of #2s & 3s is just ludicrous. His draft picks(outside of SRich)have pretty much sucked(Amaro looks OK). This is not about being impatient--it's just about facts. The idea that the NYJ would let this guy pick another draft or believe he can "outwit" the entire NFL & find the deal of the century in the draft or FA is not based on reality. Some people are not meant to be GM & Idzik is the top of that list.

Dante Bordieri
Dante Bordieri

@Brendan @J. Smooth


Yeah good analogy dummy, like Parcells wasn't embraced...... 


Just win baby.... 


Don't be a champion of mediocrity your whole life....



J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@Brendan @J. Smooth And they expect you to turn a talent-bereft team with no QB and little skill position talent into a winner within 2 years. 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@fatrex @J. Smooth @Brendan @tsjc68 I'll amend "high football IQ" slightly. I would say, from watching him, that he seems to be in full control of what's going on and fully understands what the defense is trying to do to him. He gets caught overestimating what throws a human is capable of making, but I've never once seen him look rattled, confused, or hesitant. And that above all else would be pretty darn refreshing as a Jets fan.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @fatrex

Brandon Bridge is a guy I'd like to get under the tutelage of an NFL quarterbacks coach and see what you end up with, two years later.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Brendan @DarrolRayFanClub

Offensive line long term is not looking too good so far either. The whole secondary is probably wait and see long term, but he crushed us short term.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@Brendan @DarrolRayFanClub Geno is a 10 on the importance scale. Whiffing on the QB is a job-killer. Hitting on the QB is a job-saver. That's the life of a GM, and he had a full season of Geno in the NFL in front of his own eyes to make the call that all the position needed was Michael Vick as a mentor and Tahj Boyd as a charity pick fro Seth Ryan.

fatrex
fatrex

@Brendan @fatrex You can say that about any regime, what you can't say about any regime is back to back afc championship games.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@J. Smooth @Brendan

I think most fans didn't expect a winner in year two. I think most of us would have been satisfied to not slide backwards horrendously in year two.

gottem13x
gottem13x

@J. Smooth @Brendan But not getting one glaring need is justified? especially when that need is an integral part to the HC and DC defense? 

Brendan
Brendan

@DarrolRayFanClub I mean, the team (like many fans) weren't sure which way Geno would go. In hindsight, isn't it the best plan to see if Geno is worthwhile? If he's not, he tanks your season and you get a high pick for a crack at another QB. If he is...you have a QB. 


Even in hindsight I think it was the right decision to play Geno. While the resident experts "knew" he was terrible, the team rightfully wasn't making rash decisions about that. 

Geno now looks like a huge whiff, but at least they'll be in position to immediately draft his replacement (even if it's not Idzik doing the drafting). 

jaygo
jaygo

@DarrolRayFanClub @Brendan


The QB thing is way too simplistic.  Look at Jerry Reese.  How does he go from best GM in the league to a guy about to get fired with Eli Manning a constant?  

levi
levi

@DarrolRayFanClub  I was never big on the Geno pick but I understand the pick completely. He fell to 39 and it was pretty much a no brainer to take him.

Brendan
Brendan

@Dante Bordieri Do you even want to try to be civil? Or are you just going to continue to be an incessant troll? 

Brendan
Brendan

@J. Smooth He's just LOLZing me left and right. Don't you see how witty he is!? 

J. Smooth
J. Smooth

@gottem13x @J. Smooth @Brendan He didn't "not get" anyone. It wasn't a conscious decision to ignore the CB position. He signed guys and literally none of them worked out. It's unlucky, and probably could have been handled better, but it happens all the time.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@Bent @tsjc68 @fatrex

Agreed.


Dude throws laser-darts (seriously, some of those throws don't make sense, it's like "How did that ball get there that fast?"), but he's going to have a learning curve, since what he's doing at South Alabama is just so dissimilar to NFL football.

levi
levi

@Brendan  How many people thought Tannehill was a bust? He's looking pretty good these days.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@Brendan @DarrolRayFanClub In hindsight and in foresight I thought the best plan was to give Geno a chance to see if he was the real deal, but to also draft a worthwhile second day draft pick QB who could step in after half a season if he wasn't. You still can get the high pick, AND you have eight games to see if the 2014 draft pick is anything.

fatrex
fatrex

@Brendan @fatrex That there was a reason for the support, and you always have to evaluate the positives and negatives of a regime. Tanny had a good run in NY and I don't think we treated him unfairly.

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@J. Smooth @gottem13x @Brendan "He signed guys and literally none of them worked out."


Is this a defense of Idzik or an implication that he didn't do his job? Are you seriously suggesting that being a GM is just luck?

Brendan
Brendan

@DarrolRayFanClub "2nd day" meaning 4th-7th rounder, right? Now with the new setup, "2nd day" is actually a 2nd rounder. 


And if you meant a 4th-7th rounder, I don't have high hopes that they'd be ready to step-in midseason. And that's probably not a fair evaluation period, so you're going into 2015 with the newer QB and Geno battling in camp for the right to start. 

Brendan
Brendan

@Dante Bordieri You have followed me around and insulted me multiple times without me even addressing you, but you call me a brat. 


Keep going with this comedy routine, your banhammer will be along shortly, I'm willing to bet. 

DarrolRayFanClub
DarrolRayFanClub

@Brendan @DarrolRayFanClub I meant old second day, 3-5th rounder. A Mettenberger type, and I know he's no great shakes but I'd rather give him eight games right now than Vick or Simms.

Dante Bordieri
Dante Bordieri

@levi @Dante Bordieri @Brendan


It's a hybrid of Joe Namath, Joe Klecko, the Hulk, and Mr Manhattan....

Dante Bordieri
Dante Bordieri

@Brendan @Dante Bordieri


Oh no.......not that............ As if incessant troll was flattering.....

Brendan
Brendan

@Dante Bordieri Born and raised, but thanks. 


And NY fans deserve to be ripped for some of the stuff they're pulling. I didn't know Jets fans are infallible, perfect beings that are above reproach. 

Dante Bordieri
Dante Bordieri

@Brendan @Dante Bordieri


"And NY fans deserve to be ripped for some of the stuff they're pulling."


......my bad, "they're"...........denoting us and them....as if you are an outsider of NY...... You hang yourself with every attempt at retort....