Read: What Can Be Expected From Mediation

At CBC, Dan Oldfield writes that a key to remember with mediation is that it is non-binding and used to help both sides find common ground on which to build a deal.

He says that the mediators will “attempt to uncover the real needs of the parties — as opposed to the wants — and bring them closer to satisfying those needs.”

Oldfield says that the mediators may never bring the two sides into the same room and that after meeting with both sides to understand what their issues are they will start exploring the different ways that the gap can be bridged.

At ESPN.com Henry Abbott, who writes True Hoop, wrote about mediator George Cohen who is the Federal Mediation and Conciliation Service Director.

Cohen was a mediator during the NBA lockout last year.

On what can be expected, Abbott writes “The NBA had its longest days of mediation when Cohen got involved. There is a practical reason for that — the process calls for the the two sides to be separated much of the time, with Cohen shuttling back and forth between them. Progress is slow. However, Cohen is said to have a deliberate tactic of making the days long to make clear that everyone means business, to minimize distractions from interested parties not in the room and to wear down those opposing a deal. After bargaining until 3 a.m. repeatedly, people tend to soften.”


Chris Botta tweeted “Non-binding mediation for NHL and PA will be as useful as the union’s labor board challenges. Killing time til BoG meeting on Dec. 5.”




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a57se
a57se

Colt McCoy, QB: -4.7

Breakdown: Unlike last week, when his stats masked a poor performance, this week McCoy’s struggles were plain to see. With two interceptions and a fumble, looking after the football will be job No. 1 going forward.

Signature Play: Q4, 5:25 remaining. The second of his two interceptions finally sealed the game, and any fading hope anyone had of a late comeback, with his poor throw across the middle picked off by safety T.J. McDonald.

So where is Hank and the Colt McCoy bandwagon this week???

a57se
a57se

Hey bent, since there were a few guys on this Blog who wanted the Jets to draft Teddy B if he was available, would you consider doing a comparison from this games tape between Teddy's performance and geno's?

I think it would be an interesting read...

lbp44
lbp44

The word "competent" and Geno can not be made in any article.

t__k
t__k

I'm ready to make my selection at QB.  I'm officially on team Jameis Winston.  My 2nd pick would be the kid from Michigan St. - Cook?


And I'll be just as happy with Mariota.

a57se
a57se

Speaking of QB's, here is PFF's take on Mariota from last Friday's blowout...


Marcus Mariota, QB: -2.0

Breakdown: The Heisman Trophy favorite saw plenty of support for his performance, given that he left the field throwing for two touchdowns and rushing for three more. That doesn’t tell the whole story, however, and, in reality, he should have been picked off several times. There were overthrows, late throws into coverage and careless penalties in a performance that never clicked like his touchdown total suggests.

Signature Stat: On throws 20 or more yards downfield, Mariota completed just three of the 10 he attempted.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

That was for the most part was good Geno yesterday and still we settled had to settle for 3 over 7.

cippycups
cippycups

I'm just so bummed out about this season. You wait all offseason for it to start and it's been weeks now of waiting till next year

a57se
a57se

Good post Bent. Geno did a very good job escaping trouble in the pocket. That is the best scrambling I can recall from him.

Glad you diagnosed that TD pass accurately as well...very late and well underthrown. If minnesotas' CB's were any good, they would have had several picks.

You didn't talk about the pass where Geno threw the ball up for grabs while he was being sacked...

I was livid when he did that. He should have been pulled for that one as well as his consistent inability to figure out what the defense is doing. One play he audibled to a run which was exactly what the defense was set up to stop!!!

Bridgewater didn't really look any better and was terrible in the pocket feeling pressure but he could at least identify the defense and audible to a good play...

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

Ha! That's a great frame grab, with the guy on the sideline literally pointing out the open receiver.

Bent
Bent moderator

@lbp44  I said "close to competent" though!

Marcus Armstrong
Marcus Armstrong

@a57se He definitely had a rough first half. Grade is probably fair. That said, this was also one of his worst games of the season. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se

Jameis Winson, QB: -4.9


Breakdown: Just far too many misreads and mistakes down the field for Winston in this one. He had three interceptions on the day, all three the result of forcing throws into coverage. The quarterback was at his best when letting his talent do the work for him and had 56.4% of his yards (226 of 401) come after the catch.

Signature Stat: Winston went 0-8 with a cumulative grade of -2.8 on passes outside the hash marks more than 10 yards down the field.

a57se
a57se

@johnnyl65 

I am curious to see how PFF grades geno for this performance...

hazard2012
hazard2012

@cippycups


Worse still is actually having to root against your own team because losing is now in it's best interests.   It's very hard to do, and I'm terribly conflicted watching the last few games.   Rooting for the horse's arse isn't easy.   

Bent
Bent moderator

@Disgruntled Jets Fan I was hoping it was Matt Simms or Mike Vick, but it turns out that Simms was standing to the immediate left of McGaughey, just out of shot.  (Maybe he was doing something similar though).

harold
harold

@Disgruntled Jets Fan

I was jumping up and down as well.  He was wide open.  Not sure how Geno missed that.  It was like he had blinders on.

a57se
a57se

@Bent @lbp44 

Hey Bent, how many passes did Geno actually throw on target and hit his receivers in stride?

a57se
a57se

@Marcus Armstrong @a57se 

Yeah...he had trouble both times with Arizona's defense.

They seem to have the ability to take away his first read and mariota doesn't seem as sure of himself when that happens...


a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

that wasn't from Saturday nights game...


This is:


Jameis Winston, QB: +0.6

Breakdown: As seems to be the trend in college this season, when the top quarterbacks put up impressive looking numbers, they are often bailed out by some disastrous coverage. Winston was fine in this game, but had virtually no pressure to deal with (four snaps) and had a couple of total coverage busts to take advantage of.

Signature Play: Q2. 5:48. This looks great on the stat sheet, but about all Winston needed to do was see the guy with nobody covering him after his cover-man fell over trying to track his release. Routine touchdown.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

His play has been pretty scary. I'm really not impressed by either one of these. Right now I expect more Geno type struggles if we pick them.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @johnnyl65


+3.0 including +2.6 for passing, his second best passing grade ever.

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@hazard2012 @cippycups You can root for us to win, it won't actually change the outcome either way. Not being so engrossed in the game has made it easier to pay attention to individual performances.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I know, I'm just using your strategy of selective game grade posting. 

levi
levi

@a57se  Might as well stick with Geno then. He looked good.

a57se
a57se

@Disgruntled Jets Fan 

I would expect struggles from either if we were to get them and throw them into the fire..

I think the type of struggles would be different for each guy.

Mariotas' would be more like Geno's, i would think...

Brendan
Brendan

@Disgruntled Jets Fan The LB who made the play thinks that Geno saw him, but just thought he could throw the ball right over his shoulder. To be fair, the int itself was a nice, athletic play by the LB. 

johnnyl65
johnnyl65

@levi @a57se This is like a let's stay together for the kids comment coming from Ike turner.

Bent
Bent moderator

@a57se @Bent @johnnyl65


Yes they do.


+2.6 passing grade isn't that great it just means (basically) he had five more positive plays than negatives.


So if he had 15 positive plays there's still room for 10 negatives.


A great QB will be over +5.0 every week and sometimes threatening double figures.

harold
harold

@Brendan

I think Geno makes those in practice against our terrible coverage backers and thinks he can do it in games (half joking).

He should have hit him in the 2nd window.

But that was a really good play by the backer.  Knocking it was have been a good play.  Picking it made it a very good play.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Yes, and if it was a +5.0 I doubt very much you would have posted it. 

levi
levi

@a57se haha Well what would you recommend?

a57se
a57se

@Bent @a57se @johnnyl65 

Well maybe I am too hard with poor Geno but I counted a lot more negative throws than positive ones. 

He did make some plays with his feet though so maybe that is the counter balance...


a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

Now you are a mind reader?

I have already stated I am on board witht he Jets getting either of these guys...

not sure why you think the way you do and to be honest, i really don't care.

a57se
a57se

@levi @a57se 

For Next year? Dump Vick

A) Sign either Shaun hill or Matt morre as a stopgap...

B) Draft either Mariota or Winston even if you have to trade up to do so...

C) Draft a project like Brandon Bridge or sign a guy like David Fales off Chicago's practice squad as a developmental guy...

i'd let geno and Simms compete for the developmental slot but a guy who can't read a defense isn't going to beat out Fales...

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I have been on board with both of them for a while, you've either just today decided to take this stance or you're lying to seem like you haven't been pumping up Winston while talking down Mariota for the past couple weeks. 


Either way, both will be fine, but you keep trying to draw the connection between Mariota and Geno even though they're not terribly similar players. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Haha you somehow worked David Fales into your Jets' QB plan of the future. Bravo. 



Brendan
Brendan

@a57se They haven't, this is a brand new stance of yours. You've been Team Winston for weeks. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan @a57se 

and clearly backing the team picking mariota...

why are you being such a moron on this?