Read: Looking For Two In A Row Tonight

The Rangers look to string together two wins in a row for the first time this season when they take on the Flyers tonight at MSG.

Brad Richards told Katie Strang at ESPN NY that for the Rangers to win they are going to need to play better than they did in Philly last Thursday.

In terms of how they need to play, Dave Maloney said on Hockey Night Live Saturday, “I think the Rangers learned that it’s an easier game to play when you play in the opposition end. It reminded me of last year when the Rangers would wear down teams.”





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bradysucks
bradysucks

Anyone else agree that by 2017 Leonard Williams will be better than both Richardson & Wilkerson?

I say this because Leonard is bigger, stronger, & faster than both those guys. By 2017 his technique will be where it needs to be.

This is my opinion and I hope the team re-signs Wilkerson

Brendan
Brendan

@bradysucks "Anyone else agree that by 2017 Leonard Williams will be better than both Richardson & Wilkerson?"

He hasn't taken a single snap yet. 

"I say this because Leonard is bigger, stronger, & faster than both those guys"

He isn't, though. Sheldon is faster in a 10-yard split and has better agility. Also has better explosion. He's shorter, but has longer arms. Mo weighs more, but was slightly slower (and is also nearly identical agility-wise). 

Bytor
Bytor

@bradysucks It's probably reeeealllly premature to announce that Len will be better than both Mo and Boss. I hope he will be. Having to figure out what to do with three all-pros is a good problem to have.

I'm starting to thing they won't re-sign Wilkerson this year and let him ride out the last year of his contract. See what they have in Williams. Maybe Mo's demands are too big and we let him walk or trade him. We can't pay everyone.

bradysucks
bradysucks

I am not trying to short change Mo or Sheldon who I know are both elite. I simply feel like Leonard Williams would have been drafted ahead of Wilkerson in 2011 and ahead of Sheldon in 2013. Williams as we all know was considered by most people to be the BEST player in his entire draft class. This was not true of Wilkerson or Richardson....

Does this mean Leonard will be the best of the 3 of them? No

Do I think he can be? Yes

Would it surprise me even a little if Williams is the best d-lineman on the team by 2017? No

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

Anyone else agree that by 2017 Leonard Williams will be better than both Richardson & Wilkerson?

Possible, but probably not likely.  "Equal to" seems more likely than "better than".

I say this because Leonard is bigger, stronger, & faster than both those guys. 

Not really, he's pretty identical to Sheldon and not as big or as strong as Muhammad Wilkerson.  That's not a knock on Leonard Williams, it's just that you're shortchanging Sheldon and Mo, both of whom are phenomenal athletes.

By 2017 his technique will be where it needs to be.

Probably true.

This is my opinion and I hope the team re-signs Wilkerson

I hope that too.

tsjc68
tsjc68

@bradysucks

 I simply feel like Leonard Williams would have been drafted ahead of Wilkerson in 2011 and ahead of Sheldon in 2013. 

He might have, but that still doesn't mean anything.

Williams as we all know was considered by most people to be the BEST player in his entire draft class. This was not true of Wilkerson or Richardson....

That's because the draft is a crapshoot.


Sheldon went at #13.  Mo went at #30.  Both of those guys were ridiculously underdrafted, and if you gave NFL execs a mulligan, they'd both go top-3 in their drafts.


Len Williams being drafted 7 spots higher than Sheldon and 24 spots higher than Mo doesn't mean anything other than that NFL GMs are dumb and the draft is a crapshoot.

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@bradysucks I wouldn't bet a dime on that proposition.  Becoming an elite player is unlikely for any rookie, so that is a long shot.

tsjc68
tsjc68

I had already forgotten that the Dolphins signed Josh Freeman.  I am now laughing about the fact that the Dolphins employ Josh Freeman.

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

The article from Kristian Dyer on Damon Harrison and his weight loss does not give other important information. Since Harrison entered the league in 2012 he has been on a weight loss program starting with Rex Ryan and his one step faster campaign (which started in 2011) and although the team has tried to force the weight loss on him he has stayed around 330 pounds. At his weight losing 5 to 10 pounds doesn't mean much since he can quickly add the weight. His lifestyle of eating since he was in high school and college, genetics, and playing the position he plays will always contribute to gaining weight. On the topic of genetics he is big boned and unlike other players who play his position  he has much bigger bones and must carry the fat and muscle on his body. So the more the team tries feverishly to bring his weight down the more he gains the weight. The team should monitor his weight gain but to change his physical makeup (by changing his muscle to fat percentage) to make him quicker and help his performance won't change the player and the position he plays. He is a huge athlete and should be trained to play the position he plays without having a continuous change to his physical makeup.


Interested Jet 

a57se
a57se

@UpperUS2

That is an amazingly uninformed post...


Baffled Jet

tsjc68
tsjc68

@UpperUS2

I always love seeing the wall of text come up next to that familiar orange egg.  It instantly lets me know that I needn't bother reading this comment to look for a useful take on anything, as everything written in the paragraph will be insane.

Brendan
Brendan

@OriginalNick Well, I think it's actually Hank and he's just posting under multiple aliases, but yes, this is part of the Hank & Sons LLC umbrella corporation. 

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 Just remember: Earl Thomas made JJ Watt the player he is today. 

Disgruntled Jets Fan
Disgruntled Jets Fan

@UpperUS2 Harrison is a unique biological specimen and no other DL approximates his characteristics.

 Harrison is an alien.  Probably a Thetan.

SackDance99
SackDance99

@OriginalNick @tsjc68 @UpperUS2 I love IJ's posts.  It's like the guy who put together a film showing that the Shining is Kubrick's admission that the moon landing was faked.  There's a certain mesmerizing art to IJ's insanity.

Brendan
Brendan

@tsjc68 AND THAT IS WHY DAME IS AN ALL-PRO CORNERBACK. 

MikeFrancesser
MikeFrancesser

Lol. Harrison is just big boned. Lolololololololololol

Bytor
Bytor

@SackDance99 @OriginalNick @tsjc68 @UpperUS2 There is a certain calmness and uniformity to a IJ's rants. You just know there's nothing rational in the entirety of the text. You can egg him on, poke fun, or simply admire the madness.

I don't know what anyone here would do if he had a useful point. Would the world end? I stay tuned to find out like reading a bad book to the end for closure.

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Brendan @UpperUS2


I did read the article. Why would you have him lose more weight (considering he has been a continuous offseason regiment for the past 3 years) when in 57 days he is going to go through a more physical regiment and he will have to change his conditioning and how he eats anyway? He is not going to run the 800 meter race. He is going to play one of the most brutal sports on the body in the world. 


Interested Jet 

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Brendan @UpperUS2


He isn't even in his prime Brendan! How would you know? He has been doing this his whole life not to mention he has never been dominated in football. Those injuries were basketball related and have no effect on his lower back and thighs. He has plenty of power and quickness already. You must think he is dwayne robertson who was much smaller and needed quickness to make it through the rigors of playing the sport. He is going to gain weight regardless of how much the trainers try to bring his weight down. He is healthy because of his lifestyle that he plays now that he has to go to other extreme and become a runner (by the way he does have good speed for a player of his size) when he is going to be out of the gym in 57 days the team has to make sure he is on the path they put him on is silly.


Interested Jet 

Brendan
Brendan

@UpperUS2 He's entering his prime, he'll turn 27 this year, which is typically right around when these guys are at their physical primes. 


What is your argument here, Fonzie? That a guy who has been 350+ for his adult life dropping to 330 does...what? 


Damon HIMSELF said this will make him stronger and quicker. How is that bad? Explain to me how a guy who is still massive, but now more efficiently dispersed, is somehow hurting himself by losing weight. 


Dame is still going to be bigger than nearly anyone who tries to block him, only he'll be in better shape (thus allowing him to play more) and will make him quicker (which will improve his pass rush allowing him to be more of a 3-down player).

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Brendan @UpperUS2


He  is like Ted Washington and Washington played until his mid to late thirties. Harrison is much more athletic than Washington and has taken care of himself aside from the jets trying to make him Harrison into a speedy football player.


You forgot that his genetics and his eating lifestyle since he was in high school and college has already shaped him no pun intended and he will gain some of the weight back. Right now he is not on the field slamming his body with the other players and when he leaves the field he does lose weight but  then he moves from the gym and workouts outside of pads to workouts with pads. He is not training to lose the weight and stay with that weight he is playing to play the weight his position requires him to play. 


 Interested Jet

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@brendan @UpperUS2


He started at 350 plus pounds and every year the jets continue to bring his weight down. He at that weight will continue to add weight. It is time to move on to the faster mantra when he has done everything possible at the position he plays. 


Interested Jet

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@brendan @UpperUS2



I am pretty sure Ted Washington played on three downs plenty of times in his career not to extent that would be remembered for. But Harrison has demonstrated he can play three downs starting with the Buffalo game in Buffalo in 2012. We know Rex Ryan wanted some of his players to play more on third down but to say losing weight and getting more in shape on 3rd downs is not accurate he can play on third down and we would have seen more but Rex Ryan had Richardson play more on third down.


Interested Jet 

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@brendan @UpperUS2


Correction: It is time to move on from the faster mantra when he has done everything possible at the position he plays.


Interested Jet

Brendan
Brendan

@UpperUS2 " Why would you have him lose more weight"

Longevity? His personal health? To lessen the burden on his already-taxed knees? 


You are the first person I've ever seen who has an issue with a player being healthier. 

Bytor
Bytor

@UpperUS2 @Brendan He's training to keep up with DeSean Jackson at CB when we're in dime packages. We will no longer have to take him out on running plays.

Maybe we will finally get our money's worth out of the less big fella.

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @UpperUS2


Robertson injured his knees in college playing football. Harrison injured his knees before college playing basketball. He is much stronger in his legs than Jenkins and Robertson. Jenkins was injured before he came to the jets with Carolina in 2005 with leg injuries. 


Interested Jet

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @UpperUS2


You cannot underestimate his will which is far greater than the players he has around him. He will hold himself up just on sheer will alone. 


Interested Jet

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Disgruntled Jets Fan @UpperUS2


And if he gets hurts it is the jets loss because he is irreplaceable. There is not a player like him in the rest of the league.


Interested Jet 

Bytor
Bytor

@UpperUS2 @Disgruntled Jets Fan He will hold himself up just on sheer will alone.

That was the problem with Santonio Holmes. He snapped his leg in half and he didn't have the intestinal fortitude to hold himself up. Like a baby he cried in pain. If that were Damon, he'd continue to play at an elite level, pain notwithstanding.  

Dude, what color is the sky in your world? 


Rainbows and Unicorns Jet

UpperUS2
UpperUS2

@Bytor @UpperUS2 @Disgruntled Jets Fan


Harrison has said nothing to put himself in the spotlight since he has been in the league. He done hard work day after day. He would play through a broken foot and having anchored the defensive line for the past two years I wouldn't question whether he isn't playing at an elite level because he has.

 Interested Jet