Note: It’s All About Hockey Sense

During the live chat that he did with Jeff Gorton on Wednesday, Gordie Clark said that “hockey sense” is the most important quality that he looks for in a player.

When talking about his past, Clark said that most of the mistakes he made when drafting players were because those players lacked “hockey sense” and that “hockey sense” is the most important quality for a player to have to make it in the NHL.

Clark said earlier in the week that the Rangers were looking to draft a player that “competes.”

The Rangers want player who know how to play hockey and has high levels of character. One of the things that Clark talked about with Tim Erixon was how well he saw the ice and reacted to the play. These are the kind of players that you want on your team, especially as it grows toward being a contender.

This is one of those things, like goal scoring, that can’t be taught. A player that has hockey sense has a leg up on a player that doesn’t and should be able to provide a better impact on the ice. The Rangers will do themselves well to stock their team with character players, who have talent, and know how to play the game.




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truth77
truth77

@Jason ZimmermannGood for you Jason,I can tell by the writing that you are a passionate fan!Hopefully someday we will win again and  the dark cloud that has hovered over this Organization for the last 20 or so years will end,  someday we will again see the light!

TonyM
TonyM

 If we lose tomorrow we will  probaly go  0 for4 this week with the Rangers, Penquins and Blues coming up. Too much dead wood on this team, Amac, Cmac,Grabner and Bailey!  Should have pulled Poulin after the first period but in Capuano's defense Nillson isn't any better! This season was lost in the summer when Snow did not acquire a #1 goalie! Nabokov is 37 and coming off a terrible seris against the Penquins but is resigned when Khuodobin, Scneider and Bernier were available! Snow then knowing the #1 priority was in goal and on defense trades for Vanek who is UFA! Snow's a clown who makes Milbury look like Bill Torrey! But he's Wangs lap dog so us fans have to put up with this mediocrity! Wang please sell the team!

ivo leggi
ivo leggi

Massapequa's Sonny Milano starring for USA, projected first-round pick in NHL draft

Originally published: January 17, 2014 8:48 PM
Updated: January 18, 2014 12:10 PM
By MARK HERRMANN  mark.herrmann@newsday.com

Don Smythe
Don Smythe

Defensive coverage was poor, but Flyers won the game because Berube was willing  to change goalies (Mason had a bad night) and Capuano was not (nor was he willing to give Poulin a much-needed night off). Doesn't say much for his confidence in Nilsson, does it?

ivo leggi
ivo leggi

SOUND TIGERS 5, WOLF PACK 1

John Persson lit the lamp—and also added two assists!

1st star: John Persson (BST)

shlo
shlo

@Jason ZimmermannI am dizzy now.  I am ok with your last sentence "The future looks bright."

kevinpt
kevinpt

@Jason Zimmermann Serious question, why are you a fan of the team? It just seems like you hate them. And please spare us the response where you pretend like you weren't being sarcastic and for once, actually indulge me in a somewhat serious discussion. 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@orange2327 I'm not sure what your perspective or expectation actually is?  Where is the bar?  What exactly would have you change your mind?  Are you expecting that 2-3 per draft impact the NHL roster - and if so, how soon?  7 years into the rebuild and the emphasis on defense was not until the last 2 drafts.  I think we all know D take a little longer to develop (unless you have an incredible D core and you can cover for their mistakes - see Dougie Hamilton - Bruins).  Also home town view on prospects is much higher than say other markets looking in, that said the Islanders still rank top 5 in the NHL...not sure what you expect.  

shlo
shlo

@orange2327That's the name of the game. That's what "prospect" means. You think that someone may be a good player or may answer your team's needs  going forward , you draft him.

In the early stage of the draft you get the "better bets" sometime a "sure thing" as for the rest, you roll the dice and hope. 

Most of them don't amount to anything, they stay in the AHL or just disappear. We have been there before. We'll be there again. If you expect every draft pick from round 1 to 7 to be a superstar  -it does not work like that.  I don't have the stats and I really don't care, I am sure someone  can dig it out and tell you how many out of the 210 of or so kids drafted each year make it to the NHL to begin with, become impact player is something else.

dkdk
dkdk

3-4 years ago we reading the same about those guys that we see about mayfield, Pulock, Lee, and company today.

Let's hope this group reverses trend but if it doesn't make people leery they haven't been paying attention.

vvmayshays
vvmayshays

@orange2327 

Every single good player was once a prospect.  The more prospects you have,  the better  a team scouts and  develops youth is highly indicative of which team will be better than the other.  Just because the Islanders drafted poorly for so long does not mean that draft picks and prospects are not important.  It is actually the most important part of an organization... you know bringing in new talent...

dimaio34
dimaio34

Ivo yeah just saw that and I need to say something. I forgot about persson. Diamond in the rough. I get to see preseason games here I Canada and he plays all the time. He's a guy you defintley work on. He's got size. Kinda lumbering skater but I've seen his kind before and if developed properly he makes it. Possibly a little like Derek king. Only king was a better skater. Good call though thAnx for the reminder

dzruggie
dzruggie

@orange2327 Uh there is a big difference between shots and quality shots.  Unless you are watching each of that teams games and say he is dealing with 30 + scoring type shots per game - fair point, if not kind of pointless - no?

dkdk
dkdk

Kevin, serious question why do you care who is a fan of the team or what led them to being one? All of the lovers of wang love to judge and qualify who can and can't be fans when those critical usually are lergely very supportive of most of the players they just hate the owner (and if there isn't enough evidence as to why then ......)

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Kevinpt You are humorless. Why are you a fan of the team?

Oh yes. This is the place where we must have a SERIOUS discussion because we are curing cancer here. I forgot. We're not just talking about a crappy team that's been a moribund org. For 20 years. Sorry, there.

You have found a cure?

dkdk
dkdk

Hey shlo .... That is a very logical post, thank you! My POV is that unlike what you just stated when the people that are constantly playing twister with themselves defending wang and snow they throw out all of the names of the prospect and talk about them like they are all stars already. You have to have seen people posting what the blue line will look like in 2 years and basically say you can't bring in anyone from the outside because there is no room for them. Fact is there is nearly as good a chance of Reinhart being average to poor as it is him being an all star.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@rmreturns

BS, Out of the entire Bruin roster of 26 players, only 8, got that 8 are Bruin draftees, so stop making up data to fit your agenda. These players were not drafted by the Bruins...

Campbell

Eriksson

Iginla

Kelly

Paille

Savard

Smith

Soderberg

Thornton

Bartkowski

Boychuk

Chara

Krug

McQuaid

Millar

Seidenberg

And both goalies

Rask

Johnson, PS make sue brain is in gear before posting BS like that.

dkdk
dkdk

You ever hear John Mayer? Every song is repeating the same line 411 times ... Say what you need to say, say what you need to say, say what you need to say.

Maybe I am confused and if so my apologies but there is someone on every thread for a week asking orange why he roots for the team.

Either way no disrespect intended I just have a pet peeve when people are asking why people follow the team. I think I can sum up for many of us 40 years is a tough habit to break. And we love the players and the jersey. And one day, one glorious day, there will be a new owner who will install a new GM and an NHL coach. Ahhhhh one day.

kevinpt
kevinpt

@dkdk 

I NEVER told anyone to not be a fan. I simply asked a question purely out of curiosity. Geez. 

kevinpt
kevinpt

@dkdk 

As many times? I think that's the second time.

And a John Mayer song? That makes no sense.

dkdk
dkdk

As many times as you ask the question Kevin it confuses me, your posts read like a John Mayer song.

kevinpt
kevinpt

@dkdk 


For the record, I was just curious to see what his answer would be. I was in no way saying that someone should or shouldn't be a fan of the team.

jepliberty
jepliberty

@dzruggie

Sure it is probably much better to keep an open mind, while debating whether or not this team is moving in the right direction, however what ever animosity towards each other, as all are fans was brought about by 1 person, that person has a history perhaps as sordid as has been suggested, that person is Charles Wang, a millionaire who perhaps bought this team to further his wealth, and really wasn't that comfortable in giving those big contracts out, but felt he had to do it for all to think he is a benefactor, and caring owner as suggested by none other then Gary Bettman, but remember an open mind shouldn't be so far open, that the brains drip out onto the floor, the word fan is short for fanatic, and all should be welcomed to espouse their views without the rancor, and insulting diatribe from those who believe one way, and not the other, imo

shamwow
shamwow

@dzruggie

But you can and must fault him (Chuck Wang) for being a liar and a thief; and if not, lest you too be consumed by the never ending fraud.

shamwow
shamwow

@dkdk

I'll state the obvious, DK: it's just another form of, "Sit down, and shut up"... a tactic employed to silence and stigmatize dissent - a subtle form of censorship.

Some, like RM, belittle and dismiss - the trademark of any propagandist is not to defeat an opposing argument but to diminish and deny opposition itself by posturing as the Templar of truth and advancing lies in effort of establishing an accepted orthodoxy.

dkdk
dkdk

I don't know dz ... There is lot coming from you directly at me this week so if there is no intent there is no intent but ....

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dkdk Well I said you but did not mean to imply only you....obviously both ends of the spectrum.  Anyway.....

dkdk
dkdk

@dz .... Let me simplify then ... Why does ANYONE feel the need to tell someone to root somewhere else or ask why they are a fan.

Each perspective may be diametrically opposite of the other but anyone posting here regularly is clearly a die hard that cares a lot about the team. Who is Kevin or anyone else to tell another or at least suggest they should stop watching hockey or root for another team.

Lastly there is really no grey in my book when it comes to wang. Is there grey with Bailey, prospects, etc, sure. Wang no.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dkdk DK you keep going to this division of people who supposedly love Wang and those who do not.  I know I was blasting you for being too black and white but this is a good example.  In a simple black and white process I must come across as a Wang lover but it is just too simple and not true.  Understand each person here should see and know this whole Lighthouse charade was never about the Islanders, nor was his purchase in the first place.  It was about a real estate deal that happened to house a hockey team.  Can;t fault a billionaire for wanting to be a trillionaire I suppose, it is capitalism.  However I also see at times, when it is right, Wang did do positive things for this franchise.  Wise or not he spent a lot of money at the beginning on Yashin, Peca and DP, he invested money into the county owned facility and since I do not read the financial books and I am just quoting what is been written, apparently has been taken a financial loss year over year.  My point is a fan can see all of the details and pick the good from the bad without having to be classified.  I for one am bought into Snows rebuild plan in spite of the slow tempo it has taken yet for me I would fire him if he does not sign Vanek..... All I am saying is keep a little bit more of an open mind when you try to pin an agenda on some of the fans here....

shlo
shlo

@since72  A politician said : As long as people are complaining about the situation , I am OK with it. When they start making jokes about it - I am worried.

since72
since72

@Jason Zimmermann Jason, humor is all part of it.  The organization has brought it all upon itself.  Things will turn around at some point, but for now it's all fair game!  Better than the usual "Snow sucks", "fire Cappy" and "please sell Wang" from some of our Islander brethren.

kevinpt
kevinpt

@Zee Executioner 

Yes, you know me so well to say that I'm humorless. It was a simple question. I never said it has to be a serious discussion. But I am just curious as to why people are still fans of a team they seem to hate. 

dkdk
dkdk

And for the record I have no issue with the picks that we gave up for Vanek I have issue with the fact Vanek won't sign here and we probably won't trade him to recoup anything.

dkdk
dkdk

Rm ... Wasn't niño also a top 5 pick? Didn't we hold the 5th pick when we got Bailey? Haven't you posted the failures of many top 5 picks in the last 3-4 drafts?

I mean I know you were spinning for snow and wang, keep it rolling, and by all means keep contradicting yourself. It never does get old.

dkdk
dkdk

No thanks again shlo ... This post relly made feel better! Seriously.

dkdk
dkdk

He is the least involved when it comes to writing payroll checks.

ivo leggi
ivo leggi

@vvmayshays  

Sundstorm as a future nhler / islander. 

yes he's injured. he did not play

Pedan M.I.A.?

vvmayshays
vvmayshays

@ivo leggi@dimaio34 

Did I miss something or did Sundstorm not play?


Anyone know about Pedans injury? 

dzruggie
dzruggie

@Jason Zimmermann @orange2327  Guys by your logic and sarcasm then what about Brenier in Toronto?  He gives up that slap shot from center ice and the bone head play on the Grabner goal.  Well that Grabner goal proved unstoppable because it went in...and oh yeah if I recall, 90% of the people were saying this is the guy we need to trade for.....uh a goalie prospect.  Prospects get hype way it is and the way it will always be

dkdk
dkdk

That sums it up Jason, if a guy is drafted by snow there seems to be a belief that he can't fail, just like Bailey, Kabanov, Pouiln,etc.