Read: Calle Andersson Could Be A Steal

With the 119th pick in the draft, the Rangers selected Swedish defenseman Calle Anderson.

Anderson, who was ranked 39th by Future Considerations, “A smart, two-way defenseman who makes consistently good decisions. His skating has improved this year to a strength as he is very mobile and has quick with agile feet. He plays the game cool and calm, both with and without the puck on his stick. He reads the play extremely well and has great anticipation. He knows his positioning and where to be to stifle an attack as well as what to do to support an offensive play.”

In his final rankings at ESPN Insider, Grant Sonier had Andersson ranked 36th, up from 40th in the mid-term, and writes “In the years ahead he could surpass many who will be selected before him as his game with the puck is very good, led by strong overall hockey sense.”

At The Hockey News, Ross MacLean says that the best pick of the fourth round was Andersson. He says that Andersson is a “big, mobile Swede who at times outshone higher ranked Swedish defenders.”

On Andersson, Jeff Gorton told the Rangers website , “Skilled guy that can run a power play. Has good size, thick kid. He is a right shot that can shoot. He was falling and the fact that he has some bloodlines and raised in the game is something that we look for.”

His father was Peter Andersson who spent most of his playing career in Sweden, but briefly came over in the early 90′s to play with the Rangers.

42 comments
bharper42
bharper42

shouldn't be too difficult for haden seeing as we have no WRs.  Another strike on Rex.  Who is so enamored with drafting just Defense (he doesn't know offense) that he's putting this abomination of an offense onthe field for 3 years straight now.


Don't worry haden you'll do well by default and quite possibly join the pick 6 club with a bunch of others DBs who've done it to the jets.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

Hey Bent:

What is it with PFF infatuation with Richardson when FOUR out of FIVE  NFL Senior Analysts pick Harrison for the Pro Bowl when only ONE does ???

You don't really think Rexy is showcasing Robertson (RB???) his LOVE PICK to get the votes, do you ???

davem
davem

How are u gonna shut down our top WR when we don't have one? It would be bad if it got to the point where Haden slides over to cover Geno when Jets line up in Wildcat

bob
bob

I know this sounds crazy but it couldn't hurt to pic up the phone and gets Mangini opinion about this up coming draft in regard to corner backs.... Well at least I guess Wilson he stays on the field . I'm thinking that last year we had pretty good backfield with Bell and Landry. That may explain last year. because Cro and Wilson played pretty good I thought.



Bent
Bent

@Hanknaples Confusing post that has nothing to do with the topic at hand, but I'll do my best to address it.


I don't run or speak for PFF, but as a general rule, they give players a lot of attention when they're playing well.  Richardson is playing well so he's getting plenty of attention.


What you must have missed is that Harrison is also grading out well with them and he's getting plenty of attention from them too.


Of course, it's only the same attention they gave Po'uha when he - like Harrison - was grading out as the best NT against the run but average against the pass.  You're on record as saying that this was unwarranted and now Harrison is deservedly getting attention from them, you're ignoring it and focusing on the attention heaped on Richardson, which naturally you don't think he is deserving of.


Why do you care anyway?  You have no respect for their opinion, so what difference does it make who they give attention to?


As for "four of five NFL senior analysts" picking him to go to the Pro Bowl when "only one does" - I'm not sure what that means?  One what?  Has there been four of five analysts saying Harrison deserves to go to the Pro Bowl?  If so, that's interesting and I'd like to see that.  However, there are plenty of other good candidates in the AFC so he may miss out.  He's lagging behind in fan voting and - as you yourself has pointed out - many top nose tackles are also good in the pass rush so they might get in ahead of him because of their more impressive stats.  (Exactly what happened to Po'uha by the way).


The final part about showcasing some RB called Robertson I assume refers to Sheldon getting goal line carries in the previous game.  Maybe he is showcasing Richardson to help him win the rookie of the year, but I don't have a problem with that.  In fact, I think it's kinda cool.  And the play worked (I thought he broke the plane even on the one that was marked short) so what's the issue?


You think Harrison should get goal line carries too?  I doubt he'd have the same initial burst and explosion that Richardson does (and I am bracing myself because you'll see this as some criticism of Harrison rather than a comparison to one of the more explosive players in the entire league).  Plus he didn't practice plays with the offense over the Summer and has knee issues so it would perhaps be a bad idea.

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples I don't even comprehend how you can write the wrong name ("Robertson") when you use the right one in the same post. 


Rex starts Harrison and has spoke glowingly a bout him multiple times. This "Rex is holding Damon down!" nonsense is insane, you are arguing an angle that doesn't exist. 

levi
levi

@Hanknaples I thought something similar but not about Pro bowl. I think Rex wants his man to get Rookie of the year. He has a chance at it too.

Brendan
Brendan

@bob Hey Bob-o, Wilson is one of the best slot cornerbacks in the league, which is a very important position. It took him a year too long, probably, but he's a good player now. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@bob

Why Mangini bob??

Din't Rexy assured us all that he outsmarted Mangini by Picking Wilson "The BEST CB in the draft" over Haden ???

bharper42
bharper42

@Brendan @bharper42 


of course Rex assembles the roster or enough of it to be praise or blame worthy.


Tanny gave Mangini evrey player he wanted in the draft and he did the same with rex.


The problem with rex is he doesn't know how to assess offensive talent and just went along with whatever was given him.


Rex brought scott, leonard, pace, reed here.  2 gone, 1 average, 1 old and average.


He drafted wilson, coples, wilkerson (he wanted smith cb) sanchez, and im forgetting one i think.  


The only good one is big MO the rest are average or situational players.  This idea that coaches don't draft players is asinine.  of course they do.  Tanny was on joe and evan (wfan) and admitted as much although in a tanny lawyer speak kind of way.  He admitted the final say was his but that he got all of his influence from the Coach and scouting department.  Coaches always get the players they want or you'd hear about it.


this is rex's team.  Captain goes down with the ship imo.  If it isn't his team why didn't he fight for the players he wanted.  He wanted reed and boom he was here in a heart beat.  he worked out coples and boom he's here.  he wanted wilson and he's here.


Coaches pick players.  On winning teams it's with the concensus of the Gm and scouts.  Unfortunately we've had a bad gm, poor scouts, and this coach making the picks.

levi
levi

@Bent Harrison at FB blocking for Richardson would be a sight to see.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan

"I don't even comprehend how you can write the wrong name ("Robertson") when you use the right one in the same post"

Funny isn't it ?     I had flashes (subliminal) of D. Robertson when thinking about Richardson, is that OK with you???. I think it's called a Freudian Slip LOL

I NEVER said "Rexy is holding Damon down!"

STOP making $__T up to start trouble !!!

BRENDAN------MAN UP AND PAY UP the carities need your donation BEFORE CHRISTMAS !!!!

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@levi:

I know Levi, not taking anything away from Richardson but he has wayyyyys to go before he catches up to Kiko !!!

He is The Main Player making THE HUGE Diffenrence in Buffalo's D this year !!!! 

bob
bob

@Brendan@bob Yep Brendon I"m happy with Wilson too he tackles very well good in the slot. Blue collar lunch pail type of player. very solid. and last year with  Landry and Bell.  I thought Cro and Wilson got it done.

bob
bob

@Hanknaples@bob


Hank I think Mangini did a really good job in New England as a defensive backfield coach . Jets took notice and made him a head coach. In addition to that Revis and Haden where drafted by Mangini's when he was a head coach..and these 2 guys are top corners. plus Rex and Rob Ryon both are pretty good friends with Mangini I think they both attended some defensive camp he held up in Hartford.

levi
levi

@Hanknaples Haden was drafted 7th overall long before the Jets pick of Wilson at 29. I think everyone believed Haden was the better talent....even Rex.

Brendan
Brendan

@bharper42 


"ridiculous.  Every team has players specifically picked by the coaches.  Gms get concensus from coaches and scouts.  if they know what they're doing they overrule those departments in favor of what they see is best for the team."


You seem not to understand the dynamic of a front office. Coaches have a say, just like scouts do, but they are not making picks, they are not telling the GM who to take. They're supplemental help. That isn't to say the coaches don't point the GM in the direction of the types of players they need, but they don't pick the players. Saying "I need versatile DL" is one thing, saying "take this player" is another. 


"Rex has clear say on these personnel decisions.  this is his team.  Everyone he brought in is gone. "


I don't know how to respond to nonsensical comments. It's his team, but everyone he brought in is gone? That doesn't sound contradictory? Or are you saying everyone Rex brought in was cleaned out by Idzik? Either way, you're wrong. 


"And how do you know rex knows DL better than anyone in the NFL.  lol.  So he works out someone he drafts him.  I see all the knocks on coples coming to fruition.  he floats in space like he doesn't know what he's doing or taking a play off.  And i don't think he's good, if you do, that's your opinion.  Quite frankly coples is benefitting from mo and sheldon.  I don't see him doing anything but once every couple games making a play in the backfield."


Rex's DL wizardry is common knowledge in NFL circles. Just ask Mike DeVito if you don't believe me. Dude went from a backup's backup to a starting cog in one of the top defenses in the league this year with a fresh new fat contract because of the quantum leap he made under Rex's teaching. And no, he doesn't "work out somebody than drafts them," did you bother reading my comments? He works out plenty of people the team doesn't draft. Rex working someone out isn't a sure-fire sign that he's going to be a Jet in the future. Coples has been on a tear lately, which makes your comments that you're now seeing the "knocks come to fruition" quite laughable. Coples has been much better than anticipated at setting the edge, and once he got his post-injury burst back (about Week 9, maybe post-bye) he's been on a pace of setting pressure comparable to Von Miller and other elite edge rushers. Your preconceived notions on Coples are being shattered, and you handle it by drudging up old criticisms that are no longer applicable. *golf clap* You're quite the SOJ fan, aren't you. Coples being good is no longer a matter of opinion. He is good. You can either accept that, embrace and enjoy it, or continue acting childish and ignoring the fact that, in the past three weeks, Coples has 4 sacks, 3 QB hits and 5 QB pressures, an elite level of production for a relative kid. How much does Coples benefit from his DL mates? About the same amount they benefit from him. Wilkerson was stuck in a rut (for him, anyway) without Coples. Coples garners extra attention because he's such a rare edge rusher. His size/burst combo make him a handful for any OL and adding him back into the starting lineup after he returned from injury is when the DL truly took off. The fact that you don't see him making plays every game when he's been a force of nature the past month proves my point for me. You don't want him to succeed, so you're pretending he's not. 


"Your fact that this isn't rex's team is wrong and is your opinion.  Tanny said himself on teh radio the other day as well."


Ignoring the fact that you're trying to overrule my opinion with your own, please provide the exact quote that Tanny gave that states he didn't make the roster decisions and Rex did. It doesn't exist, but I'm interested in what you provide as "evidence." 


"And if rex didn't have a say he's still responsible for this horrid offense, and average defense.  Great defenses don't get burned as often as this."


Defense is better than average, and how is he responsible for the offense? Great defenses are rare, if you expect every year to have a great defense, it's your fault that your expectations aren't reasonable. 


"You seem content with mediocrity.  Rex is mediocre at best.  Since when do you keep a coach who loses 3 years in a row after building the team in his image.  this is his program, his players, his coaches.  Everything is regression under this regime.  nothing goes forward yet you want to keep him and waste 12 draft picks, adn 40 million dollars in cap space to give him another chance to possibly get it right? "


Because I point out gaping flaws in your logic I'm content with mediocrity? For starters, this would only be Rex's 2nd losing season, 8-8 is not a losing season. Rex was brought in as the Jets' window was closing, he felt the brunt of the rebuilding effort and roster turnover and his GM absolutely screwed him with the Sanchez extension, the single most damaging move during Tanny's tenure. I guess you blame Rex for that as well? 


John Idzik, current General Manager of the NY Jets NFL franchise, perhaps you've heard of him? HE is the one who will use 12 draft picks and $40ish million in cap room to rebuild this team. Because, as has been repeated to you numerous times already, THE GM IS WHO ASSEMBLES THE TEAM. He'll take Rex's input, make his final call himself, and rebuild the roster (this is assuming Rex returns). If he hires someone else, it's the exact same process, just a different coach giving input. Welcome to the NFL, I can see you're new to the whole thing. 


You seem like the type of Jets fan who takes all his cues from guys like Manish and Cimini. You should probably stop doing that. 

bharper42
bharper42

@Brendan @bharper42 


ridiculous.  Every team has players specifically picked by the coaches.  Gms get concensus from coaches and scouts.  if they know what they're doing they overrule those departments in favor of what they see is best for the team.


Rex has clear say on these personnel decisions.  this is his team.  Everyone he brought in is gone.  


And how do you know rex knows DL better than anyone in the NFL.  lol.  So he works out someone he drafts him.  I see all the knocks on coples coming to fruition.  he floats in space like he doesn't know what he's doing or taking a play off.  And i don't think he's good, if you do, that's your opinion.  Quite frankly coples is benefitting from mo and sheldon.  I don't see him doing anything but once every couple games making a play in the backfield.


Your fact that this isn't rex's team is wrong and is your opinion.  Tanny said himself on teh radio the other day as well.  


And if rex didn't have a say he's still responsible for this horrid offense, and average defense.  Great defenses don't get burned as often as this.


You seem content with mediocrity.  Rex is mediocre at best.  Since when do you keep a coach who loses 3 years in a row after building the team in his image.  this is his program, his players, his coaches.  Everything is regression under this regime.  nothing goes forward yet you want to keep him and waste 12 draft picks, adn 40 million dollars in cap space to give him another chance to possibly get it right?  


not me.

Brendan
Brendan

@bharper42 


"of course Rex assembles the roster or enough of it to be praise or blame worthy."


No, not "of course." Rex is the head coach, he has never been in charge of assembling the roster. Having input and having final decision are not even close to the same thing. 


"Tanny gave Mangini evrey player he wanted in the draft and he did the same with rex."


False. One example: Rex didn't want Stephen Hill. 


"The problem with rex is he doesn't know how to assess offensive talent and just went along with whatever was given him."


Like every head coach with a defensive background, he defers to the scouting department on offense. This is the norm, not some special case that makes Rex less of a head coach. 


"Rex brought scott, leonard, pace, reed here.  2 gone, 1 average, 1 old and average."


Pace was brought in in 2008, before Rex was hired. Scott, Leonard and Marques Douglas all helped ease the transition into Rex's defense, which was the polar opposite of Mangini's, basically. Reed was brought in for a playoff push, but to hear both sides tell it (Rex/Idzik), the team was already well on their way to looking into signing him before Rex brought it up. 


"He drafted wilson, coples, wilkerson (he wanted smith cb) sanchez, and im forgetting one i think.  "


No, no, no and no. He did not draft any of those players, Tannenbaum did. I am very interested in what determines "Rex's pick" vs. "Idzik/Tanny's pick" in your mind. It seems pretty random to me. 


"The only good one is big MO the rest are average or situational players.  This idea that coaches don't draft players is asinine.  of course they do.  Tanny was on joe and evan (wfan) and admitted as much although in a tanny lawyer speak kind of way.  He admitted the final say was his but that he got all of his influence from the Coach and scouting department.  Coaches always get the players they want or you'd hear about it."


Lol. Coples isn't good? Coples is not situational and he's been on a tear since getting healthy. He's well on his way to being a long-term terror for QBs, which is exactly what he was drafted for. With each passing game that looks like a better pick. The idea that coaches DO draft players is asinine. Just because you want Rex to be the source of all the team's evils, it's just not the case. The roster is NOT a product of Rex's influence, and that is fact, not opinion. That is the way the team's been structured since long before Rex arrived. Coaches don't always get the players they want, which lead to the infamous quote from Parcells about cooking the dinner/picking groceries. NFL coaches are NOT babied and given everything they want, this is a common misconception people bring up when talking about reasons to fire Rex. Rex hires coaches, so criticize him for the coaches if you want, but not which players are on his team. Until he's given the authority of a guy like Andy Reid had in Philly, you can't say that. 


"this is rex's team.  Captain goes down with the ship imo.  If it isn't his team why didn't he fight for the players he wanted.  He wanted reed and boom he was here in a heart beat.  he worked out coples and boom he's here.  he wanted wilson and he's here."


As already explained, the Reed signing was in motion before Rex even got to Idzik to lobby for him. Rex worked out Coples because he knows DL talent better than almost anyone in the entire NFL. It would be dumb not to have him work out guys like Coples, Wilkerson and Richardson. He's the best person on the Jets' payroll to evaluate these guys' talent. He's worked out plenty of guys the team didn't end up taking, too (like Margus Hunt, same way he worked out Coples). Rex wanted a CB with man skills, but that player was rumored to be Devin McCourty, not Wilson. There is a difference between Rex telling Tanny "I need another starting-level CB for my defense" and Tanny getting that player, which was also probably influenced by the very real chance that Revis would be gone sometime in the near future. 


"Coaches pick players.  On winning teams it's with the concensus of the Gm and scouts.  Unfortunately we've had a bad gm, poor scouts, and this coach making the picks."


No. They. Do. Not. Repeating a falsehood doesn't make it true, no matter how many times you do it. GM's pick the players, coaches coach them. Some coaches are given more say as they earn it, but the majority of NFL teams operate in this manner. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Bent@a57se

That's total BS and you know it Bent and I'm SHOCKED that you maintain that it did not happen when it is ABSOLUTE FACT...WITHOUT ANY DOUBT that I suggested and MADE, ASSURED THE BET with BRENDAN ACKNOWLEDGING AND ACCEPTING THE BET of TWO THING MUST HAPPEN:

1) Vernon must get DOUBLE DIGIT SACKS and..

2) The DOLPHINS MUST GO OVER THE VEGAS ODDS of 7.5 WINS

AND BRENDAN IS ABSOLUTELY LYING IF HE DENIES IT AND HE KNOWS IT !!!!!!

THE BET OF A REASONABLE DONATION TO A FAVORITE CHARITY WAS FULLY AND COMPLETELY ACCEPTED AND ACKNOWLEDGED BY BRENDAN .........and I am sure there are people on this site that read it and know I am right 100% on this !!!!!!!!

Bent
Bent

@a57se @Bent @Hanknaples I know, but since he seems to be mocking me for losing a bet I never made, I should be entitled to dispute that.


And nobody took any bet because Hank refused to put his money where his mouth was.

Bent
Bent

@Hanknaples I was involved in the conversation.


I am stunned that Vernon got that many sacks because he's not that good (negative PFF ranking for this season, despite the sacks).  Goes to show how playing opposite someone great (Wake) can help you to produce.  Same deal with Pace heading for double digit sacks.


Kudos to you for calling that one.  You didn't have the testicular fortitude to put money on it though.


I wouldn't have bet on the Dolphins winning less than 7.7 games, I expected them to win at least eight.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Bent @Hanknaples

I'm floored Bent....I knew you had this guys back but NEVER to this extent !!!

You were even involded in the conversation that OLIVIER VERNON WOULD GET DOUBBLE DIGIT SACKS AND THE DOLPHINS WOULD WIN OVER 7.5 GAMES !!!!!

You remember that conversation, right ?.....or did you also got a sudden case of DiMENTIA !!!!

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples This is why I can't stand you. JUST ANSWER A F***** QUESTION. You're so obnoxious with the cryptic nonsense. If you ever just answered a question head-on I would collapse from the shock of it. 

Bent
Bent

@Hanknaples @Brendan You guys never agreed on any bet.  You tried to make one but when Brendan laid out the terms and asked you to agree to them you refused to.

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan

How old are you again ???

Don't tell me that at your tender young age, you are already developing Dementia......must be your lifestyle !!!

You remember the bet Brendan, c'mon man !!!!

Ask Bent to remind you, because  I already did just a couple of days ago (Dementia REALLY taking hold) !!!! 

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples Why do you associate Richardson with Dwayne Robertson? 


Richardson is an exceptional player and person. He's Damon's closest bud on the entire team, so it confounds me as to why you'd hate on him. 


You've held the bias that Rex and certain people that comment here are unfair to Harrison, which is outrageous. Everyone roots for Damon, he's a great guy with a great story. 


What am I paying up for? 

Bent
Bent

@Brendan Because he shares his opinion on this particular matter.

Brendan
Brendan

Why do you trust ex-Fantasy writer Chris Wesseling more than the PFF guys? Because he writes at NFL.com? 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@Brendan @Hanknaples

Did ou know that LOSS of reading comprehention is the first sign of Dementia???

I'll repeat it:  I said..."I don't know what it is with PFF (Pro Footbal Focus, if dont understand what PFF is) infatuation with Richardson is..."

Here, this is what an Informed, trully OBJECTVIE football wise site looks like !!!

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000292340/article/tyrann-mathieu-keenan-allen-head-list-of-top-rookies

Now...Why Kiko over the Honey Badger you ask??? Becase Tyrann hass been injured !!!!

bob
bob

@Brendan@bob


Yep these guy collectively are a good crew I guess they would be even better than advertised as our backfield get better.

Brendan
Brendan

@bob Yeah, I would be fine with the same CB depth chart in 2014. A healthy Cro and Milliner a year wiser (and with an offseason program) would be a much better group. And they could bring back Aaron Berry, who was playing well before tearing his ACL. 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@bob

That was a football for underpriviledged kids for his Uncle Carmine's Foundation Mangini holds every year .

You're right, Rob and Rexy plus a couple of Jets attended !!

Brendan
Brendan

@Hanknaples How can Rex draft "Wilson over Haden" when the Jets picked over 20 spots after Haden was drafted? 

Hanknaples
Hanknaples

@levi @Hanknaples

What I posted were actual quotes and confirmed by others (Rob before the draft) that he was/is serious in his belief that Wilson was "the better player" and the ONE he wanted all along !!