News: Rangers Sign Taylor Pyatt

Darren Dreger is reporting that the New York Rangers have signed Taylor Pyatt to a two-year contract with an average salary of $1.55M per year.

Pyatt had 9 goals and 10 assists for the Phoenix Coyotes last season.

In 2010-11, he recorded 31 points on 18 goals and 13 assists.

Nick Licalzi: Pyatt will be a good addition to the Rangers bottom 6. While he does not address their need for scoring, he will fit right into their black and blue style. Pyatt is coming from the Coyotes who played a game similar to the Rangers and will help to offset the losses of Brandon Prust and potentially Ruslan Fedotenko.




213 comments
idothis2
idothis2

i can't see Revis getting another 16m from the bucs. i think his market will come crashing down to 10-12m a yr.

a57se
a57se

"The two men, Ryan and Idzik, were among the last two people in the Jets’ training facility late Friday night. Although a meeting on Ryan’s status could not be confirmed, a source said that their presence together in the facility was not accidental.

Besides the coach/GM relationship and Ryan’s contract status, another issue facing the Jets is that at least a half dozen assistant coaches, including defensive coordinator Dennis Thurman, are working on expiring contracts. Those issues still need to be addressed and worked through, according to sources."

This is a quote from Tim Polzer with SI.

a57se
a57se

"Although it appears that coach Rex Ryan will return to the Jets, one of the complicating factors is that several other teams could be interested in hiring him if he is let go, raising Ryan’s leverage as he seeks a contract extension.

According to a source, at least two teams with questionable head coaching situations would be interested in hiring Ryan, who has one year remaining on his contract with the Jets. In addition, two other teams would quickly move to hire him as a defensive coordinator if he were available.

“Rex isn’t going to be out of work long if the Jets let him go and they know it. The Jets let-ting him go could actually work out for him pretty nicely,” the source said.

While that could be seen as posturing by Ryan’s camp, many people around the league are impressed with the job Ryan has done making the Jets competitive this season despite inexperience and poor play at quarterback. The Jets were 7-8 entering the season finale at Miami. In addition, the Jets defense is vastly improved under Ryan, who has played a large role in picking the defensive talent."

This is from Jason Cole, someone who has been quoted many times on this Blog.

BDarc23
BDarc23

I think they will probably gived Rex a 1 year extension but who cares? I am a huge Rex fan but why is it a big deal if a coach is in the last year of his deal? Players in all sports do it all the time. If the Jets have a great year then you can reward Rex.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

Anybody who wants to know why Rex Ryan will be our Coach for at least the next 5 years and win a sh-tload of games just has to watch the reaction in the clubhouse and the looks on the faces of al the players when Woody announced he' s coming back. Those were pro's coming off an 8-8 season , they didn't make the playoffs and there  was more genuine emotion towards their coach then you see in locker rooms after teams have won Superbowls.  it gives me chills, and then to huddle up and yell "and the home of the JETS", damn I can't wait til next year!

John Ledo
John Ledo

Hold on there Corey....let Rex prove he can take this team back to the playoffs next season then lets talk multi year extension. The guys has failed for 3 years in a row and now having him back isnt enough? you want to reward him for what another 4 years? No let him play out the contract or at worst give him another year but that's it.

a57se
a57se

@idothis2 

  That would be interesting as Revis is probably not going to just give up $4 million dollars so easily. 

Do you think TB will just cut the cord with him?

BDarc23
BDarc23

Hasn't Idzik proven that the media doesn't really have a clue about his intentions?

levi
levi

@a57se Play like a Lion? Play like a Buc? Play like a Brown? Nah it just doesnt roll off the tongue. ITS PLAY LIKE A JET BABY AND REX AINT GOING NOWHERE!!!

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se "If he is let go." 


Well, he won't be let go, so what's the point of posting this? The entire piece is speculative based on something that isn't going to happen. 

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 It's just the common practice in the NFL not to leave a coach riding out the final year of his deal. 


I honestly don't get it myself, but that's how almost all the teams deal with that situation. 

Bent
Bent

@Bernard Mclaughlin Was interesting to note guys like Winslow, Cromartie, Lankster and others who might not even be back next year looking just as excited as anyone that he'll be back.

a57se
a57se

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo 

John, you argued earlier today and yesterday that Rex  has options and is probably looking at them so why would he accept no extension from the Jets if he has other options? That would not be good business.

idothis2
idothis2

@a57se@idothis2new gm with a new direction will probably not want that 16m line item. i think they cut the cord. i cant see another team lining up to pay a cb that. Bucs were the last of that breed.

a57se
a57se

@BDarc23 

That is EXACTLY part of the point. People who want to ignore any other possibility think they know how Idzik thinks as well. Based on the same lack of information.

As Tim polzer pointed out in the SI piece, the Coach/GM relationship, rex' contract and the fate of the assistant coaches STILL have to be worked out.

That is what I have been talking about. Some folks want to ignore the real issues that are left to work out and assume that all is gravy and I hope that as well,  but that may NOT be the case. I don't think it is a crime against humanity to discuss the possibilities in any case.

Brendan
Brendan

@BDarc23 Shhh..just let him keep posting snippets that prove nothing. 

a57se
a57se

@levi@a57se 

Haha...I hope you are right! I am on record as sasying that if Idzik fired rex I would not let it go as some were advocating before we knew.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan@a57se 

You don't dictate what is worth posting and what isn't worth posting.

Bent
Bent

@Brendan @BDarc23 It's because if the coach happens to have a good year in the last year of their deal, another team can come along and offer him a bunch of money, leaving you with no control over who's available and when.  You might not lose the guy, but you will almost certainly end up having to pay them more than you planned to.

John Ledo
John Ledo

@a57se@Johnsbodybyvi Ledoi'm responding to this article that you shouldn't leave a coach out to dry...this is the same coach who hasn't had a winning season in 3 years now. I don't want the Jets giving him a 3 or 4 year extension...i don't even think a 2 year deal is worth it. 


Rex does have options if he was a FA coach right now...the Lions make the most sense, if they fire gym shorts.


If Rex doesn't make the playoffs next year is everyone ok with firing him?

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Hm, that's odd. I've never had that issue. 

levi
levi

@Brendan I wouldnt know because I cant get the darn chat to work for me. It says it will email my password but never happens.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi We were talking about it in the chat yesterday, but I think Dunbar might be one of those guys that's perfectly happy with his current role and doesn't want a greater one. He's definitely had opportunities to interview for DC jobs, at least, and we haven't really heard anything about him shooting for one of those positions. 


I think Dunbar is content as a positional coach and he/Rex REALLY hit it off, as did the DL players. 


I think of all the coaching decisions, Dunbar back as DL coach is the easiest no-brainer decision they have. 

a57se
a57se

@levi

And Rex has to weigh that as well. Unless he makes Dunbar an Assistant HC/D-line coach, the only other promotion is D-Coordinator which would eliminate Rex' buddy DT from the team........

How much, IF anything, is their to the rumors about Idzik wanting to bring in some of his guys?

levi
levi

@Brendan Dunbar will definitely have other offers on his table. He may be weighing his options before he accepts an extension. Same with some of the others. BTW I of course want Dunbar back. Hes proven himself with the Vikes and now here but someone may offer him a promotion.

a57se
a57se

@levi@a57se 

That is a distinct possibility levi. But, if Rex is not being given an extension commensurate with his ability to coach a sub-standard team to an 8-8 record and the freedom to hire the coaches he thinks are best, perhaps Rex balks at that.

I mean, what does this guy have to do to get the respect from the team he gives everything he has to?

I would consider it an insult if the Jets don't offer him a very nice extension. A one year extension would be a slap in  the face, IMHO.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi @a57se I think Rex would draw the line at firing Dunbar, and for good reason. They better not let Dunbar get away, and Dunbar retweeted seemingly 6,000 tweets last night by fans who want him back, so hopefully the team got the message. Dunbar wants to be back and the DL adores him, so they hopefully do the right thing there. 

levi
levi

@a57se Im thinking Rex, Woody and Idzik sit down and discuss the future of the teams coaches as a team. Other than Thurman I dont think Rex would draw the line in the sand with Idzik/woody. Assuming Thurman isnt offered another job else where that is. Rex's coaching tree has done well and the others that are left probably have options to weigh.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Sure, I mean, why bother defending your point when you can just ignore anyone questioning it. 

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I asked you what the point of posting it was, I didn't tell you not to post it.

levi
levi

@Bent For that reason I expect an extension to be coming for Rex. If he takes the team deep into the playoffs with an expiring contract his phone will be ringing off the hook with offers.

a57se
a57se

@djf1

That is one of the things I absolutely miss most; Pastrami Sandwiches!

levi
levi

@djf1 Thanks and yes it is difficult. haha

djf1
djf1

@levi @Brendan Congrats and best of luck!


Man, trying to keep track of a conversation on livefyre is a difficult task.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Haha, you know we have no problem going off-topic around here. Good news is news worth sharing, I say. 

levi
levi

@Brendan Thanks I appreciate it. I know this isnt the forum for such topics but I couldnt help it Im as excited as Tebow signing with the Jets.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Congrats, Levi. 


I am extremely envious given that I'm working under a person who I genuinely cannot stand. I just keep my head down and get through it, but if you're in a partnership with another guy I can see how not getting along with them can be a real strain. 


Good luck moving forward. 

djf1
djf1

@Brendan @a57se I'm not a huge fan of pastrami sandwiches.  I'll take all the other stuff though.

levi
levi

@Brendan OT but as a side note Ive been in business for a while with a partner and just today I signed my first contract without him. Its to difficult working with a guy I can no longer stand to be around. Big step for me and Im pretty happy.

Brendan
Brendan

@levi Yup. We did a specialty elementary school in lower Manhattan and the color schemes were almost identical to those I use in hospitals now. 

levi
levi

As a small construction business owner I can tell you they have done studies on the calming effect of paint schemes and I have painted schools with such colors.

Brendan
Brendan

@djf1 It has a lot to do with the done and hue of the color and less to do with "green." I do construction in hospitals, they all have their "standard" colors that are all light colors that don't stress the eyes. 

djf1
djf1

@Bent @jaygo Also, green is supposed to calm people down.  That's why they paint hospital walls green, or so I've heard.

a57se
a57se

@djf1

   Thanks to Livefyre, your comment is impossible to trace to a source. 

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@levi @Joe/Orlando Yep, that's basically the way I try to behave as well.  I challenge people's ideas here sometimes, but I don't believe I've ever attacked someone personally.  I can't say the same about some posters here.  And some prominent ones at that.


And I agree it is totally possible to respond to Hank in a civil manner, so that a rational, opposing viewpoint is out there for everyone to see, without attacking him personally.

levi
levi

@Joe/Orlando You can respond to Hank or anyone else and still keep it civil. Its the childish name calling that shouldnt be allowed. I personally can get in an intense argument and never resort to that with anyone here. some I choose to ignore because of how they operate but most I enjoy bickering back n forth with.

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Brendan @Joe/Orlando Oh I agree, I've been tempted to respond to people like him myself and I'm pretty steeped in the "ignore" philosophy.  And I don't really expect everyone to ignore trolls because history shows that it's not realistic.  But again, trolls and the joy they bring is a different discussion than being able to disagree respectfully with reasonable posts which was my point.

Brendan
Brendan

@Joe/Orlando I understand what you're saying, but that's all best-case, perfect-world scenarios. 


I know the easy and best answer is to just ignore them, but sometimes Hank and people like him succeed at their goal of getting under people's skin. I'm a passionate Irish/Italian, I can't help it if I get fired up easily :/

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Brendan @Joe/Orlando Oh, I see what you meant.  But still, the answer is no you shouldn't, IMO.  His posts that contain personal attacks should be removed and if he continues to post them in violation of the rules, he should be banned.  Calling him names accomplishes nothing.


Or, you could think of it from a practical standpoint.  In all the years that you and others have responded to Hank's insults, has his behavior changed?  What has been gained except having lowered the signal to noise ratio of this blog?


But again, I'm not talking about interactions with Hank.

Brendan
Brendan

@Joe/Orlando @Brendan  To be clear, Hank comes here and belittles/insults multiple people from TJB commenters to the leaders of the franchise, without thinking twice. So, you still shouldn't say anything to the guy talking crap to your face? 

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Brendan @Joe/Orlando Well, my honest answer would be that people like Hank should be ignored, because I believe he only posts here to generate responses and chaos.  But to answer your question specifically, yes, the philosophy should apply to everyone.  What good does it do to call someone names?  It only makes it appear as if the poster is childish, and has no rational argument to make.


Having said all that, I'm not talking about people interacting with Hank or other trolls.  I'm talking about people being unable to respectfully disagree with comments that are not trolling.  It does happen here and it does not seem to be consistently moderated.  Just my observation.

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@a57se@Brendan  Brendan  , why at times I have  disagreed with (not often) does his homework, and does not pretend like others to have a better grasp on the team than the people who make big bucks to run it. he also realizes that 90% of the controversy on this team is fabricated by lazy reporters whose intent is to generate readership and buzz in the most competitive media market in the world . idzik and Woody say they decided to keep Rex a few weeks ago, idzik in front of the team said he's the coach, he and Rex hugged it out. ...Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. Don't get suckered into being  someone who looks for hidden meaning and intrigue  behind the scenes. it's only there in the minds of the media who make it up as they go along  to outdo each other.  Just try being a fan and loving the team, love the Coach as much as the players do . It's entertainment and Woody would never let Idzik , as an ego thing fire the one marketable thing the Jets have had for awhile, a Coach who bleeds Green and players that will dive though walls for him.,.best example yesterday of why was his defensive line backfield yesterday, those three guys will remember that forever, they got to come out of the trenches and deliver hurt on people. That's why they love their Coach, you should try it too, it's fun!

Brendan
Brendan

@Joe/Orlando Serious question: should this same mindset be applied to people like Hank? 

Joe/Orlando
Joe/Orlando

@Bent I'm not trying to defend 57, and I don't think you read every comment posted here, but I've observed that some of the posters who want to  "make positive contributions to the board" are also some of the first to make a personal attack, and I rarely see this addressed.


If people could stick to "attacking the idea, not the person", I think a lot of the back-and-forth and baiting that is frowned upon would go away.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Okay, we'll do this one last time. 


If I have run people off this blog, I'm happy about that. My optimism pisses off self-hating Jets fans, trolls and the like. My factual-based commentary pisses off the insane eye-testers like Hank. If I've forced someone to vacate TJB, it's almost certainly because they didn't like being told their cherished opinion is in all likelihood very, very wrong. 


You seem to think I speak on your comments because I want to influence them, and you couldn't be more misguided. I never, ever expect to change your mind, but I feel it's my obligation to make sure that people on the fence know there is a very real, very different stance to things like your present "Rex might want out if they don't give him what he wants!!!" nonsense. You literally made up an issue to debate it, so while you may find value in that type of discussion, many people see it as pointless fear mongering. 


Haha, and please reference me by name in your SNY letter. I hope you receive a swift response, but I assume you'll be given a cookie-cutter generated email letter thanking you for your comment and to keep coming back to the SNY blog network. 

Bernard Mclaughlin
Bernard Mclaughlin

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo@Brendan@a57se   This is insane having this discussion. Rex, more than anything in the world wants to coach THE NY JETS, and his players to a man want to be coached by REX RYAN. You have 2-3 young players who will be FA's in the next few years, Coples, Wilkerson, Richardson  they will MAKE Woody keep Rex .

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo It's been a very systematic approach, starting with Woody using that firm to aid his GM search. It wasn't a big name, it wasn't a flashy name, it was a name almost no one knew, but the people Woody hired came away believing Idzik was the right man to fill the role. It seems that process is indicative of how the Jets have operated in totality this year, they don't want to be the popular kid in class anymore, they just want to be the top ranked student. 


Woody and his minions got wrapped up in the warm spotlight, but have since reset their course and have the right mindset needed from the higher-ups. Very happy with this team's future right now. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan

Brendan, you have driven more people off this Blog then I ever have. Then again, I really haven't tried to do that like you have.

I don't need this Blog to be sunshine and lollipops to have a good day nor do I need your approval to discuss what i choose to discuss here. I also don't need to be constantly harassed by you anytime you don't like what I say.

I am not the only person you do this to with seeming impunity. That is my biggest issue with this Blog and I will be writing a long, detailed letter to SNY about this situation where you and a few others try to intimidate and cyber bully people to stick to a narrative you like instead of open, healthy discussions. Bent seems to be complicit in this as well since he NEVER finds you at fault, though you most often are.

Bent
Bent

@a57se @Bent I know Brendan wants to have on-topic discussions about the Jets and make positive contributions to the board.


You, on the other hand, seem to be deliberately inflammatory on an increasingly regular basis.  If that's not the case, then you are being accidentally inflammatory on a regular basis, so I am making you aware of that fact.


Yesterday was a great day.  Would rather look ahead with optimism not argue needlessly.

a57se
a57se

@Bent

 No, but people respect you on this Blog. Your opinion does carry some weight......

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se - Dude, I responded to John since he had stated he wasn't up on all the reading and let him know that this speculation is really just a complete fabrication and the team/GM/head coach are not at odds. Rex isn't leveraging the Browns job to get a 4 year extension, it's all just randomized speculation created by you and your ilk just so we have "something to debate." 


We don't need something to debate all day, every day. We are allowed to simply rejoice in positive things that happen, like Rex being here in 2014 (which you wanted to happen). Is this how you celebrate? By finding new things to harp on? 

Brendan
Brendan

@jaygo Just to clarify, the "this" I referred to when I asked why we're discussing it is this idea that Rex is going to leverage job openings elsewhere to get a long-term extension. 


Rex wants to be the Jets head coach for the rest of his career, that's not just lip service to get Woody Johnson all chubbed up (tee hee). Woody and Idzik clearly want Rex to succeed. The owner and GM were both grinning ear-to-ear yesterday when they let the team know Rex was coming back. 


EVERYONE INVOLVED WANTS THIS GROUPING TO SUCCEED. 


So management wants Rex to shake up his staff? Was the team a juggernaut this year? No, the staff could use some upgrading. And keep in mind this is all speculative, which apparently gives a creative license to shoot off-the-cuff nonsensical ideas out there just because, no matter how illogical or unreasonable they may seem. 


For once in Jetland, everyone is on the same page, and apparently that drives certain fans and media types batty. The owner, the GM, the head coach and all the pieces in between are content, they're happy with the direction the team is headed and they want to finish that journey together. I've been stamping my feet for years about keeping continuity and building a franchise, not just a team, and I'm ecstatic with the steps the team has recently taken to ensure that happens. If people want to sift through mountains of positives to find a negative, that's their prerogative, but you are really stretching if you try to drive a wedge between the front office and Rex. DID YOU SEE IDZIK HUG HIM!? That's not acting, these guys are all-in with each other, and that permeates the entire franchise. 


Can't wait for next year!

a57se
a57se

@Bent

Neither is Brendan. John and I are having a discussion and Brendan jumps in and says we shouldn't be discussing what we chose to discuss. He did the same thing to joeyboy earlier. Why can't you ever publicly hold him accountable?



Bent
Bent

@a57se Please stop trying to police the blog and get other people in trouble. 

a57se
a57se

@jaygo

more personal attacks....where, o where are the moderators?

Now we're not supposed to speculate on this Blog anymore because certain people get offended nd can't deal with reality.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan I wonder how our moderator would interpret your comment. Or is that the way to attack someone online w/o getting in trouble? You have mastered that as well?

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se I didn't issue a single personal attack in your direction, unless you are saying you're one of those people who create issues just to debate them. 

a57se
a57se

@Brendan

There is the 'personal attack' machine we're used to from Brendan.

john and I are having an adult conversation.

Let's stick to Football, Brendan.

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Great, thank you for breaking down the laws of the internet for me once again. 


My point is, when people create issues to debate about them, they're sad, lonely individuals who hate fun, and bassett hound puppies, and boobs, and pastrami sandwiches and all the other good things in this world. 

a57se
a57se

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo

Well IF Idzik is also insistent on replacing some of Rex' assistants with coaches he likes and the Jets are not willing to extend his contract, that might be enough for Rex to realize that maybe, just maybe, Idzik really doesn't want him as his coach but is willing to sacrifice 2014 as well so in 2015 he can bring his guys in.

We have a ton of FA's this year and who knows, we could get rid of a lot of veterans this offseason leaving an even younger, inexperienced team for rex to coach.

a57se
a57se

@Brendan

We are allowed to speculate on this Blog. Even if it upsets you.

Brendan
Brendan

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo And we don't know that he is. That's what is dangerous about these discussions, lot of misinformation flying around. Both Rex and the team want to work something out so he's not a lame duck coach, they will work something out eventually. It's insane to think otherwise, and it's also pointless to create a rift where there isn't one. 

John Ledo
John Ledo

@Brendan@a57seI understand that...again I'm not big on giving Rex a 2 or 3 year deal. He gets max a 1 year extension...3 years without a winning season doesn't give Rex any kind of right to demand a multi year extension

John Ledo
John Ledo

@a57se@ww85sure just like Herm did with the Chiefs...i believe we got Leon Washington for that 4th rd pick

Brendan
Brendan

@a57se Again, why is this even being discussed? The team is not coming anywhere close to this sort of situation. 

a57se
a57se

@ww85@a57se

Teams have worked out compensation issues in the past and sometimes it goes to the league to determine but no one has ever forced a HC to sit a year in a similar situation.

John Ledo
John Ledo

@a57se@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo I didn't read gym shorts was fired...sorry a bit busy today. Sure he can resign if he wants too...if Rex doesn't take a one year extension and wants multiple years or else then let him do what's best for him. 

He doesn't deserve 3 or 4 more years..he arguably deserves one more season, which hes going to get, and that's it. 

ww85
ww85

@a57se @Johnsbodybyvi Ledo He can resign, but the Jets would have to release him from his contract. They can prevent him from working if they want or demand draft picks(from the Lions?).

a57se
a57se

@Johnsbodybyvi Ledo

The Lions have already fired Schwartz.

Rex does not have to finish out the last year of his contract. He can resign like other coaches have done.