On May 29th, at Gothamist, they looked at some renderings that architects developed for a New Madison Square Garden.
One proposal saw MSG on the west side of Manhattan, similar to where it has been thought to be moved, and the other saw the arena moved just outside of the City.
In response, MSG released a statement and said “It’s curious to see that there are so many ideas on how to tear down a privately owned building that is a thriving New York icon, supports thousands of jobs and is currently completing a $1 billion transformation. These pie-in-the-sky drawings completely ignore the fact that no viable plans or funding to rebuild Penn Station and relocate MSG actually exist.”
MSG notes that they spent millions of dollars and about three-years exploring the idea of moving across the street to the Farley post office as part of the new vision for Penn Station. They said that the plan for that fell apart and the people who caused it to fall apart are the same people pressuring MSG to move right now.
At ESPN NY, Ian Begley notes that even with the City Council vote, a plan still needs to be developed and that the City, state, Federal Government, MTA, Amtrak, community boards, local business, the commuting public and Madison Square Garden will all need to work together to get this to become a reality.
Crains New York mentioned two potential landing spots for Madison Square Garden, if a deal is struck and it is moved, the back of the Farley Post Office, across the street from where MSG currently is, or a two block stretch on ninth avenue and 30th street.
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Adam Rotter: I spoke with some people involved with New York City real estate yesterday and pretty much everyone thought that when this is all resolved, MSG will stay where it is and there will be some sort of compromise to help improve Penn Station. There are so many different people that need to get on the same page and so much money involved that things could fall apart and come back together a dozen times before there is any resolution. There is also a thought, like what George Steinbrenner used to do, that James Dolan could threaten to take the Knicks and Rangers out of NYC to get his way and keep MSG where it is.
In a February 2012 article in the NY Times, Michael Kimmelman writes that a possible solution to redeveloping Penn Station and moving Madison Square Garden is to place MSG at the site of the Jacob Javits Center.
He notes that Governor Andrew Coumo has proposed that the Javits Center would be knocked down and a new convention center would be built at the Aqueduct Racetrack and Kimmelman says that MSG could be placed at 34th street and 11th avenue.
He writes “It would stand at the northern culmination of the completed High Line, and at the doorstep of a redeveloped Hudson Yards, where the new extension of the No. 7 subway line from Times Square will stop.”
Kimmelman also notes that there is a plan for dedicated bus service from Penn Station to 34th street and 11th avenue to go along with the extension of the 7 train which is expected to be finished next summer.
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9:20AM: As Deadspin notes, MSG will have the chance to reapply for a permit to stay in their current location.
7:21AM: Last night, the New York City Council voted 47-1 in favor of a ten-year limit for Madison Square Garden to operate at it’s current location.
MSG will have ten-years to find a new place to play while the city works on developing a new Penn Station.
The NY Times writes ” Civic leaders and some developers have long sought to rebuild Penn Station, a cramped and crowded maze for the more than 500,000 people a day who traverse it. But doing so would be an enormously complicated, multibillion-dollar undertaking that has foiled officials in the past. And anything can happen in the next 10 years, including several elections for mayor and governor. “
MSG responded to the news by saying that they are looking forward to the start of the 2013 season.
According to the Wall Street Journal, City Council speaker Christine Quinn is favoring legislation that would create a new Penn Station and calling for a ten-year limit on Madison Square Garden operating where it currently resides.
Quinn is planning a commission that will look into a new residence for the building.
MSG has applied to have an indefinite renewal of their permit, while the City planning commission struck a compromise that called for a 15-year limit and allow MSG to renew indefinitely if they can come to terms with the LIRR, NJ Transit and Amtrak on adding more stairs, elevators and escalators to Penn Station.
Quinn said that she would eliminate the clause that would allow MSG to renew indefinitely.
There have been hearings about the permit that have included testimony from civic groups, MSG executives and Spike Lee.
In a letter written to MSG President Hank Ratner, Quinn wrote “given the uniqueness of the site, with the arena sitting above the most heavily trafficked transit hub in the City, as well as the nation, a term for the permit is warranted,”
Capital NY says that MSG’s 50 year permit to operate where it currently is expires this year.