Mailbag: What is going on with John Moore?

John MooreMichael, New Jersey asks: “What is going on with John Moore? When is he going to sign? Could he hold out?


Moore is an RFA and did not have arbitration rights.

He is expected to sign a bridge deal around his qualifying offer of $850,000.

The team (per cap geek and with Kostka and Hunwick on the roster) has about $1.3 million in cap space.

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Adam Rotter: When training camp starts, Moore will be signed because he has no leverage to hold out. Conor Allen and Matt Hunwick are both left shots and the team also has Michael Kostka and Steven Kampfer (right shots) with NHL experience. There is also Dylan McIlrath (right shot) though it seems like the team wants him to get more AHL games under his belt.

Moore is a nice third pairing player, he can skate well and move the puck nicely but unlike when Derek Stepan held out last year, the Rangers have a lot of depth that could step in for Moore. If I had to guess, and it’s only a guess, as to why Moore hasn’t signed yet it’s because he wants a one-year deal while the team wants him for two. A one-year deal for Moore would give him a chance to go to arbitration next summer as well as sign for more money with the salary cap expected to rise. Ultimately though, the two sides will make a deal before camp starts otherwise Moore will put himself in a big battle for a roster spot.

Buzz: The kind of bridge deal that John Moore may be looking at (Update)

Steve Ott,  John Moore7/22/14 | 8:15PM: Moore’s contract is expected to pay him close to his qualifying offer of $850,500. (NY Post)

7/5/14 | 9:12PM: John Moore is an RFA but without arbitration writes so he is likely to sign a two-year bridge deal that Larry Brooks thinks won’t be for much more than his qualifying offer of $850,500. (NY Post)

Brooks speculates a two-year deal worth $1.1 million for the 23-year old defenseman. (NY Post)

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Read: The elbow on Dale Weise is not who John Moore is

John MooreIn the Eastern Conference Final, John Moore was suspended two games for a hit on Dale Weise.

Moore said that taking a major penalty for elbowing someone in the head is not who he is and that if he could do it over again he probably would not have finished that hit. Moore added that it was unfortunate that Weise got hurt and injuring him was not his intent.  (Sun Times)

In the regular season, Moore had 25 PIM including 1 fight, 4 roughing penalties, 2 interference penalties, 1 holding penalty, 3 hooking penalties and 59 hits.

In the playoffs, Moore had 1 match penalty for elbowing, 1 slashing penalty, 1 cross checking penalty, 1 tripping penalty and 18 hits.

He returned to the Rangers lineup in game two of the Stanley Cup Final.

Moore is an RFA right now and expected to sign a bridge contract.

Read: A homework assignment helped John Moore’s game

John MooreWhile John Moore was recovering from the concussion he suffered late in the season, the coaches had him write down what he was seeing from the press box during a game against the Canucks.  (NHL.com)

He said that he wrote down a lot and it was a lot of “little things” and “split decisions” that could be the difference between a scoring chance or a good defensive play. (NHL.com)

Moore gave his notes to video coach Jerry Dineen who put together a list of clips so that Moore and Ulf Samuelsson could discuss what he was seeing. (NHL.com)

He said that his game started to improve after doing this “homework” assignment.

Michael Del Zotto had to do a similar thing during one of his times as a healthy scratch early in his career.


Moore played 74 games for the Rangers this season with 4 goals, 11 assists, a plus seven rating, 115 shots on goal, 59 hits, 57 blocked shots and an average of 15:19 per game.

  • When on the ice at 5 on 5, the Rangers controlled 51.6% of the shot attempts, 53.1% of the shots on goal and 54.2% of the goals scored
  • He started 41.9% of his 5 on 5 shifts in the offensive zone, 33.9% in the neutral zone and 24.2% in the defensive zone

Moore played in 21 playoff games, had two assists, a plus two rating, 19 shots on goal, 18 hits, 19 blocked shots and an average of 14:32 per game.

  • When on the ice at 5 on 5 in the playoffs, the Rangers controlled 50.4% of the shot attempts, 49.8% of the shots on goal and 55.6% of the goals scored
  • He started 48.2% of his 5 on 5 shifts in the offensive zone, 37.7% in the neutral zone and 14.1% in the defensive zone

Stats: John Moore’s return to the lineup

John MooreJohn Moore returned to the Rangers lineup last night and played 19:07, was an even rating, had one shot attempt blocked, 2 hits, 1 giveaway and one blocked shot.

By period, Moore played:

  • First Period: 4:03
  • Second Period: 4:36
  • Third Period: 4:12
  • OT: 4:03
  • Double OT:  2:13

Moore played 2:27 on the PP.

He was on the ice (at 5 on 5) for 12 shot attempts for and 17 against and 4 shots on goal for and 12 against. (ES)

Moore was matched up mostly against Slava Voynov, Willie Mitchell, Dwight King, Mike Richards and Trevor Lewis. (ES)

Moore also saw a lot of time against Justin Williams, Drew Doughty and Jarret Stoll. (ES)

Read: John Moore expected to return for Game 2

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5:32PM: Bill Pidto says that Moore is in. (MSG)

6/7/14 | 5:23PM:Vigneault would not confirm that Moore is in but it is expected that he is. (Andrew Gross)

6/6/14 | 9:33PM: Moore said on MSG on Friday:

  • On what he noticed from above, “there wasn’t a lot of open ice, that was for sure, they played us very tight and as a five man unit and they came as advertised but the ice was hard to come by and the biggest thing is supporting the puck carrier and something that we need to work on.”
  • On his situation and his game, “All the stuff, it happens and I don’t see it impacting my play. It’s unfortunate what happened but it’s hockey first and foremost and I don’t see what happened changing my style.”
  • What will you focus on in game one, “I don’t know, at this time of the year xs and os are important but you are playing for the cup and it all comes from inside now. Sitting out and watching game one, it sucked so you are motivated and it’s a battle of wills. I am hopeful I get a chance.”
  • On the need for an “A” game, “no one is coming in here looking to take a step back and trying to bring anything other than their “A” game but we need to execute and play as a five man unit. We want this, that isn’t a question and we need to play a strong team game.”

Alain Vigneault said today “As far as him being ready, I know that if we need him, he will be. He works extremely hard. He’s only missed two games. How he’s going to respond after being suspended, that question goes to him. I think he’ll be fine. He’s given us some real important minutes this year and I think he’ll be fine.”

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NEWS: John Moore suspended two games

John Moore has been suspended two games after his hit on Dale Weise last night. (Bob McKenzie)

The video from the NHL says, “Tuesday night in Montreal John Moore delivered an illegal check to the head of Dale Weise. Weise carries the puck through the neutral zone as Moore tracks him through the middle of the ice on the backcheck. After Weise passes the puck to a teammate, Moore drives up and into Weise delivering a hit that makes his head the main point of contact. This is an illegal check to the head.”

They add “Weise is eligible to be checked on the play as the release of the puck and the moment of contact is within established NHL standards however it is important to note that Weise makes no sudden movements prior to or simultaneous with the hit that contribute to his head being the main point of contact. Therefore the onus is on Moore to make sure that he delivers a full body check that does not make Weise’s head the main point of contact.”

“While Moore does make incidental contact with Moore’s shoulder, the angle taken and elevation of the hit result in Weise’s head absorbing the brunt of the contact. This was an illegal check to the head. Although he returned to the game and completed it after initially being taken to the dressing room, Weise suffered an injury as a result of the hit.”

Danny Briere says that two games for Moore is “fair.” (Chris Johnston)

The Canadiens are happy with two games for Moore. (Chris Johnston)

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Pictures: John Moore’s hit on Dale Weise (Updates)

12:05PM: Alain Vigneault said this morning (via the NHL):

  • “Yeah, but league standard, and I know the league standard very well because a couple years ago in the Boston series against my former team in Vancouver, and it doesn’t meet the league standard as far as a late hit.  It was a hit that Johnny caught him a little high in the chest, player didn’t see it coming.  It probably warrants the penalty that was given on the ice.  Other than that, I don’t see what else it could warrant, but I’ve been surprised before.  We’ll see what happens.”
  • “Well, the player didn’t see him coming, obviously, but the guy was admiring his pass a little bit at the same time.  Unfortunately, it was a hit in the head because of the force of the hit, the head seemed to snap back a little bit.  But as far as what I know about league standards and from what I heard from the Prust hit where the dynamics of the hit changed because Stepan was hurt, I don’t see that at this time right now.”
  • “We’re not there yet.  I don’t expect anything. “

10:35AM the hearing is for 2:30PM (Katie Strang)

7:28AM: “I don’t think John Moore’s hit was as late as Brandon Prust’s hit was but it was still late and the NHL has the technology to determine that. There was an injury on the play but Weise came back as did Stepan, Stepan ended up with a broken jaw and now we will find out of Weise is and if he is they will tack on the extra game. For me, it’s probably a 0-1 game and I think everyone can live with one game and if there is an injury that takes Weise out perhaps they add another one.  (Darren Dreger on Leafs Breakfast)

12:18AM: The NHL confirmed that Moore will have a hearing today.

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Stats: John Moore’s return to the lineup

John MooreIn his return to the lineup last night, John Moore played 15:12, had 3 shots on goal, 1 blocked, 2 that missed the net, 2 hits and 1 takeaway to go along with his first period goal.

Moore played:

  • 5:09 in the first period
  • 3:53 in the second period
  • 4:03 in the third period
  • 2:07 in OT
  • 2:24 on the PP

He played mostly with Dan Girardi in the first and until the middle of the second, then he saw a few shifts with Raphael Diaz, Marc Staal and Anton Stralman in the second period. Moore skated with his regular defense partner Kevin Klein for a few shifts in the third period before alternating shifts with Girardi and Stralman through the rest of the game and OT.

Moore started 35.7% of their shifts in the offensive zone, 21.4% in the neutral zone, and 42.9% in the defensive zone. (ES)

At 5 on 5, Moore was on the ice for 10 shot attempts for, 5 against and 6 shots on goal for, 3 against. (ES)

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Read: John Moore returns tonight (Updates)

John Moore9:56PM: In the first period, Moore spoke with John Giannone and said:

  • On his confidence after scoring, “It’s huge. Going into this game, six games without playing, to score on my first shift, it’s big.”
  • On the goal “Zucc found me cross ice and when I first got this puck my first thought was to come down the wall and then I saw the guy in the lane try to get back and Brass had a great screen and it found it’s way in.
  • On the higher altitude, “for sure. You are feeling it early in the shifts and as a group I think we got in trouble when we were extending our shifts. “it’s a factor and something to keep an eye on

5PM: With the injury to Ryan McDonagh, John Moore will return to the Rangers lineup for the first time since suffering concussion symptoms on 3/18 against Columbus.

Earlier in the week it was noted that Moore needed one more practice and then it would be up to Alain Vigneault when he returned.

Moore said today in Colorado that he is 100%, feels great and has been skating hard with Danny Lacroix to get ready for a return. (Ranger Rants)

He said that he can’t worry about replacing Ryan McDonagh and can only play his game but did say that he is looking forward to playing with Dan Girardi. He said that with Girardi he needs to make sure that the two are on the same page and that if he gets the chance to join the rush he will take it. (Ranger Rants)

Moore has played in 69 games this season, has 3 goals, 10 assists, 102 shots on goal, 46 that have missed the net, 77 shots that were blocked, 50 hits and is averaging 15:02 per game.

When Moore is on the ice, the Rangers control 51.3% of the shot attempts. (ES)