Buzz: Marc Staal Injury Update

During TSN’s Insider Trading segment, Bob McKenzie said that Marc Staal is one week into his light training program and that if there are no setbacks, he thinks that Staal could be back some time in the New Year.

It is a little vague, but I think that what McKenzie is going for is that Staal will return THIS season, and possibly sooner than we think. They are going to be cautious though and I think that the earliest we see Staal is the all-star break which is basically two full months from now.

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dminches
dminches

Time will tell how he did, as it always does, but there aren't any new players I am really excited about.  Many of the guys are cast offs or have been recently injured.  Plus, I am not sure they got much more athletic in the back 7 which was one of their biggest needs.  Finally, OL is still a mess.  I can't believe Snee is still capable of playing after the abuse his body has taken and they have no LT.  I really like Pugh, but the other spots are suspect at best.  I can't say I am optimistic.


hashburry
hashburry

Well, Reese is certainly building the all recently injured team, I'll give him that.  And he's the one that got this team in such a bad place to begin with.

cole3244
cole3244

most of the supposed quality fa are way overpriced it looks like reese is addressing depth more than anything imo.


there is plenty of time to complain after the draft and all the moves still to be made, to come to a conclusion now is jumping the gun to say the least.


at #12 reese must take bpa and not need.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

John,

Before you praise Jerry Reese, he still has a long way to go to improve this team. I will agree with you that the free agents he has signed thus far are quality players and should be major contributors in 2014. If Reese does not add additional free agents before the free agency adds, he will have to make every draft pick count and Coach Coughlin might need to change this rookie philosophy this year. Based on his signings (and if he doesn't add on) it seems to me that the Giants first 2 rounds will go to a TE and a DL (in no particular order). Despite what many on this board believe, I still do not see the Giants drafting a WR in the 1st round (ie: mike evans). WR very deep and there will be a quality WR through rounds 3-5. The same can be said for the center position (rounds 3-5) if the Giants do not sign one in free agency. Once the free agent frenzy is completed I will start my mock draft for the Giants.

delshofner
delshofner

No LT, no running back and no TE.  Eli has no protection, no running game, and no TE.  Reese gave Beatty who looks like he's about 250lbs 40 mill to play the most important position on the line. 


Mr F, that's what I think f Reese.  

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

Three moves solve a lot of those question marks:

1) Jared Allen (restructure Rolle or Eli and the cap space is there). JPP, Allen and Moore could return the DL to prominence.

2) Draft Mike Evans. Eli is at his best when the jump ball is available to him. See Plax and healthy Nicks years.

3) draft Troy Niklas in round 2. Considered one of the better TEs and would solve TE for 5-7 years.

They still would need a Center for the long term but everything else would fall into place.

Brian Bannon
Brian Bannon

There's always gonna be people that take to blogs and talk as if 32 nfl teams should have them on speed dial, i'm very happy with everything Jerry Reese has done so far, solid players at reasonable prices and filling some of the needs, there's still months of free agency, the draft and the preseason cuts to add more quality guys to the roster

Martin London
Martin London

we still have a ton of holes & no depth at a lot of crucial positions. Let's not pop the bubbly just yet. 


We still have no TE1, WR1, C, CB1 & depth, DE/DT depth. That's A LOT to fill, especially when Coughlin doesn't play rookies the 1st half of the year.

urda83
urda83

Definetly need a Center. One could probably make the argument that CENTER is probably the most important position on this team!!! To quote Mr. Mara "Our offense is broken and needs to be fixed!" Why was our offense broken? Eli was a deer in headlights last season. He was getting hit left and right. He needs to have time to sit in the pocket!!! Otherwise he will be throwing 4 INT's a game again. Our we really going to put a guy who has been out of football for over a year as our starting Center?!?!? JD Walton is going to fix our broken offense?!?!? Good Lord I hope NOT!!! Sign De La Puente!!! Please!!!

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

Mr.F---

i think I'm  REESE's TUFFest Critic--- On this BLOG---

Bottom Line,

REESE is doing a A+ Job, in FREE AGANCY !!!

the 3 missed steps--

#1. DE/OLB " Tweener " Schofield $8M ???!!!??? i think the Med Staff saved REESE...

#2. ELI needs a CENTER.... Period !!!!! C Walton is a HUGE Gamble,

WHY gamble with ELI ???!!!??? ELI is the ONLY FUTURE for this FRANCHISE....

#3. REESE Miss-Managed LB Beason,

He miss Handled LB Beason from the begining,

and locked the NYG's into a Bad spot, he had to OVER PAY,

there was NO WAY REESE could let LB Beason, WALK--

and EVERYONE knew it,

that WHY LB Beason DIDN'T need a AGENT !!!

REESE is thanking Jerry for Releasing DE Ware, 

Because Johnny E, spent All his D cash on DE Ware and not LB Beason....

----TBS

when your at ROCK BOTTOM, the ONLY way to GO is UP !!!

After ALL,

REESE is CLEANing UP his OWN MESS........

Joseph Bulger III
Joseph Bulger III

I for one never saw LT at 12th with so many other needs (most notably CB opposite Prince) and #1 WR (Randle, Jernigan, Cruz aren't #1 WRs).  Beatty's our LT and there's a 4 year $39M contract to prove it.  He needs to be protected, and plays well when he is.  But when JR doesn't staff O-line backups with anybody who can step up and play, and Boothe moves inside to Center, Beatty was left unprotected inside.  Compound that with JR letting a good pass protection RB go in FA, and replaced him with his #1 pick who can't block to save his life.  Compound that with JR letting a very good blocking TE go in FA, and replacing him with a TE who can't block to save his life.  No protection for Beatty was his undoing.  Well, JR has fixed his inside protection with Geoff Schwartz, and signed a good pass protection RB.  Pick up a great blocking TE like Troy Niklas in the draft, and Beatty's protected.  It also helps that future HOFer DeMarcus Ware's in Denver.  The only way LT at 12th made sense was if they planted the rookie at RT and moved Justin Pugh inside to be mentored by Snee.  But that doesn't make a lot of sense today (how we currently stand in FA) without a starting CB opposite Prince, and with the actual O-Line needs being Right Guard and Center, neither of which is value at 12th.  If JR signs DRC or another very good CB, then that backs off the need to sign Justin Gilbert or D. Dennard with the 12th and he can trade down for more picks in a very deep draft.  But DRC turned down how much in Denver over how many years?  I'd be shocked if JR went there.  Might as well fix Corner for the next 5 years at one-fifth the CAP hit and with the 12th draft Gilbert, about whom one pro analyst wrote, "Would have drafted him over any Corner not named Patrick Peterson in last 3 classes."    

Nick Correa
Nick Correa

Hey Mr. Fennelly, Would defitely like to hear what your thinking when it comes to the 12th pick. Everyone wants to say LT is a need, and I agree to a point. But we have a starting LT in Will Beatty who is signed long term and a pretty high salary. I can't see the Giants wasting a #1 pick on that position. What would they do with Beatty if they draft Lewan? I like the kid but I don't see the fit unless we Trade Beatty.....and obviously we couldn't trade Beatty until we actually made that pick. Your thoughts???

mcfly
mcfly

All your points are valid, but I wouldn't of used Vernor as an example. Compared to what the market was paying CBs this year, his deal is quite fair. I think we should of

pushed harder for his services but after seeing the Shields deal I bet Reese didn't think he would of been able to get Vernor for that price.

urda83
urda83

That being said... Reese has done a very good job with the players he has signed. I just don't see Walton/Reynolds or Boothe being the answer at Center.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

Nonsensical Skookaloop rant with randomly capitalized letters in 3...2...1...

urda83
urda83

I just wish the Giants would sign De La Puente to be our starting Center and use Walton as a backup. Dallas Reynolds is horrible. De La Puente would solidify our offensive line... Which was one of the worst in the NFL last year.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@cole3244 good points, let me add to your comment and say that Reese needs to make each round selection count. Last two drafts weren't that good in terms of depth and player contribution. Reese must have a successful draft.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@delshofner Jennings is a quality RB and he will produce as a Giant. Reese can still acquire a LT, TE in the draft if he doesn't in free agency. I agree with you about Beatty, never liked the long term contract given to him, never thought he deserved it.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Peter Sinapi  First of all, Allen will not come East if he even plays again at all. He just collected every penny of a $72 million deal in Minny and is going to write his own ticket. He visited Seattle and is on his way to Dallas.


Second, the Giants are not restructuring either of those contracts. By doing that, they would have to extend both players. Rolle is coming off a Pro Bowl year and is not going to be conducive to a pay cut. Eli is coming off a lousy year and the Giants want to make sure he's still their guy before committing another dime to him.


The Giants would have to take Evans with their first round pick and they may not be thinking WR that early in the draft. That is, if he's even there. 


Niklas is a good choice for Round Two. That is if New England or Baltimore doesn't take him in Round One. 


I'm not as concerned about center right now. They would not have signed Walton if they did not feel that he could play.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@Peter Sinapi Your fixation on Mike Evans is borderline obsession. If you're right and the Giants use their 1st round pick on Evans, when they have no bonafide depth on the DL (joseph and tuck departure and JPP uncertainty) and there are WR just as good as Evans in the 3rd round, it would be a major mistake. Evans is good, but lets not forget who his QB was in college and how many times Evans stats grew due to broken plays and Manziel scrambling.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Skookaloop When your #1 negative is the "signing" of a guy that in the end they didn't sign you obviously don't have much to complain about haha. And even as far as your #2 issue I haven't heard Reese or anyone else refer to Walton as the Giants starting C this upcoming season and there's plenty of time left in the offseason to acquire someone else so until that time that they don't it's premature to get on Reese for that as well.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Joseph Bulger III  Good points, but Beatty was the LT last year. He may not be this year. He might get flip-flopped with Pugh. And don't forget, he's coming off a broken leg, so he needs to pass a physical, too. 


Drafting Gilbert might be overkill, but Thurmond is here for one year and DRC, who could sign today, might be, too.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@Nick Correa  In the first round, you always try to take the best player available. Now that could be anyone this year. It all depends who gets taken before you, too.  I would like a LT, but I wouldn't mind trading back for late 1st rounder and another 2nd in this draft, which is very deep. The second round will be loaded.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@mcfly  Shields and Verner are fool's gold. This year, no one will be looking at the pay stub. Next year, they'll be looking to cut their salary when they realize how ridiculously overpaid they are (i.e. Corey Webster). The only reason they were signed for so much $$$ was to get them in the door for that one or two seasons. Neither will realize the full worth of their contracts.

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@urda83  It's March. There is still much to be done.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

@Brian Webster  


Yes, randomly capitalized words, chaotic and overdone punctuation followed by acute rambling and whining. 

SNYGiants
SNYGiants moderator

@urda83  They could be waiting until the market dies down a bit. Long way to go yet

rico
rico

@urda83  Walton another Center (see Bass) who has injury history and hasn't played in 2 years, and he never was dominant.  So yeah we need a Center. 

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

Mike Evans cannot be found in rounds 3-5. My obsession is accurate. You don't draft depth at 12. You draft need. And the Giants need a WR that can go up and get all those horribly inaccurate passes Eli throws. If he can put up those types of numbers with Manziel, what can he do with a real QB?

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

I don't get what the hold up is for center.

Skookaloop
Skookaloop

@Brian Webster @Skookaloop  

the Q, Mr.F asked,

What do you think of REESE "NOW "...

as in, Up to this Point in F.A.---

IMO,

C was the NYG's TOP NEED,

Yes, i AGREE there is Plenty of Time....

i think OG K.Boothe, will be brought back...

the Schofield $8M Signing, shows INTENT,

INTENT, to Gamble $8M on a Player,

with Schofield's Past,

is POOR Management.

the Fact that the MED Staff, 

had to STOPPED the Deal,

is not reassuring....

Do you think it's PURDENT, to Risk $8M,

on the 1st DAY of F.A. , 

on a Player of His Caliber ???

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@fast_eddie His comments remind me of those like ransom/stalker notes where they cut letters out of magazines and paste them on a piece of paper to form words and sentences.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

If you want to critique stats than at least know what (u) means. But you are right. A film session tells more than scouting reports do. Like I said, I don't have time for that kind of detail. The draft as a whole needs to solidify each of these positions. No matter where they are taken. If they take Evans at 12, it doesn't mean they can't take a DL in round 2 or 3 bein they took 2 DL last year, I doubt they are spending another high pick on the same position.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@Peter Sinapi if you're making a case for Evans purely by what you read, then how can you make an argument for him. I have watched many hours of film on many of these prospects (its part of my job) including Evans, so I feel very comfortable with my statements. Let's just finalize this discussion with a lets see what happens on draft day. By the way, Evans best time at the combine was 4.53 and not 4.47. If you're going to list stats, please do a little research before hand.

Peter Sinapi
Peter Sinapi

Vernon Gholston was everything a coach could want at the 2008 combine. How did that work out? I don't think any of us know what will happen to these players. I don't have the time to breakdown film so I will trust what I read from scouts and analysts. I haven't seem anything that makes me concerned that Evans won't do well at the next level. And the Giants have a glaring need on the outside. Eli's best years he had Plax winning jump balls. There is no denying that fact. When Nicks was healthy and using his awesome ball skills to win jump balls, Eli looked pretty good. Evans can be that sort of guy, IMHO. I don't think you will find an overall package like Evans. 6'4 231 and runs a 4.47 (u). Calvin is a freak, but the next tier is Julio and AJ. He is bigger and just as fast as both. What's not to love? Your preference is a d lineman. That's fine, but I'm not taking a DL at 12 because you don't find skilled guys like this with ball in the air skills often. I will take Julio Jones/AJ Green types any day of the week over a lineman.

Michael Stewart
Michael Stewart

@Peter Sinapi You can't guarantee me or anyone that Mike Evans is an absolute given in terms of having a successful NFL career. The history of the NFL is full of players drafted in the 1st round and not live up to all the hype that you seem to giving him. The history of the NFL is also full of players drafted between the rounds of 3-5 who have gone on and had successful and productive careers. Your assumption that there are no WR as good as Evans in the later rounds has no merit or proof.  I am not saying 100% that Evans isn't a bona fide star in the making, as there will most likely be several players drafted in the 1st round in this years draft that could wind up pro bowlers. However; the Giants can't draft from all 32 slots in the 1st round. My point is simply that the Giants have greater needs than the WR spot and to draft one in the 1st round doesn't make sense. Do me a favor and youtube games (highlights) of Mike Evans and see how many times he benefited from broken down coverage due to Manziel scrambling around the field. Eli Manning is not capable of doing that. Also, review the prospects at the WR position in this years draft. Players like Jordan Matthews, Martavis Bryant and Brandon Coleman all have the ability and talent that could translate into successful WR's in the NFL. By the way, if the combine is any indication of the success of these prospects and the NFL relies on this very much. All 3 WR's I've mentioned out performed Mike Evans overall at the combine.